Federal Re-opening guidance

[pmax]

Originally Posted by RWebb

ok, so the state owns the beach and has not closed it?

Yup.

Originally Posted by RWebb

does the county have authority to control access to state owned lands?

They can control access to the beach on county roads.

Harassing and strong arming people already on the beach is another matter.

[jyl]

I went to Home Depot today. Maybe 1 in 10 customers was wearing a mask, same for staff, that includes the older people.. No sanitizing of anything was apparent. It was almost as crowded as a normal day.

Had to go as I needed something not available in the smaller hardware stores, but I think I’ll do my best to avoid HD for awhile. It felt a little creepy.

[Sooner or later]

In my city only 100 customers were allowed in HD/Lowes/WM/Sam's at a time. It was raised to 150 yesterday.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Interesting. The HD here closes at 6 every day so they can clean and disinfect everything. I would say 75%+ have masks. Whole Foods pretty much 100%.

[Mahler9th]

"I went to Home Depot today. Maybe 1 in 10 customers was wearing a mask, same for staff, that includes the older people.. No sanitizing of anything was apparent. It was almost as crowded as a normal day."

I have been going to HD a lot during the past two weeks-- needed to set up a home office space. I have been buying items on-line and doing curbside pick up for most trips.

I have also been in a couple of local stores during this period, and everyone is wearing masks. After 4/22 they won't let you in without one.

They seem to have a system for counting people... but I have have not been affected as I have been going from 7-9 am.

I have also gone to my local ACE, which is a fantastic store (been going to the same one since '91). No restrictions in terms of numbers of people, but I have been going at odd times just to make sure I don't have to stand in line. Went today at a peak time and it was jammed. Everyone was wearing face coverings (some were more diligent, some were kind of sloppy).

In both HD and my local Ace, my experience has been that most folks seem to be following social distance guidelines with pretty good consistency.

But I can see how some/many could begin to relax a little in coming weeks-- human nature. We will all have to work on avoiding getting too relaxed.

[cabmandone]

I was in Menards a week ago. The number of people wearing masks was minimal. I saw a worker standing with two other people (none wearing masks) discussing an item. I have no real problem with it but they should be trying to adhere to social distancing. When I walked in the store, there was a young guy spraying sanitizer on the carts and wiping them down. He was letting customers know the ones in front of him had already been cleaned. That was kind of nice. Went to Lowes after leaving Menards.. Some workers had on masks, most that I saw did not.

I'll be going back to Menards today so it'll be interesting to see if anything has changed much.

[KFC911]

Masks are still not widely available here...local efforts are trying, but the demand sucks them up immediately. I've only been in grocery stores a few times....folks are maintaining "space"...about 50% have masks on, some home made.

I don't have one....at least my mom does.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by KC911

Masks are still not widely available here...local efforts are trying, but the demand sucks them up immediately. I've only been in grocery stores a few times....folks are maintaining "space"...about 50% have masks on, some home made.

I don't have one....at least my mom does.

I've been doubling up facial cover I use for hunting. It will do for what needs to be done. Keep in mind, the mask isn't so much protecting you as it is protecting others from you.

Ya dern spit talker!

[KFC911]

I just carry a rifle instead of a mask....folks seem to keep their distance

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by cabmando

It's taxpayer owned land. Never forget that.

so are military bases

the key is who manages the land and what laws control their actions

e.g. suits over USFS clearcutting, BLM allowing grazing, and etc.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by legion

We are down to 5 active cases in my county. All 300,000 of us are locked up for our own good. Our governor can't think past the borders of Cook County. He did open golf courses, so I guess that means he likes to golf.

what county are you in?

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Mahler9th

"I went to Home Depot today. Maybe 1 in 10 customers was wearing a mask, same for staff, that includes the older people.. No sanitizing of anything was apparent. It was almost as crowded as a normal day.

Here in Maryland it is nearly 100% where ever you go, with ample sanitizers and wipes. I'm fine with wearing a mask. My wife has made a bunch and I also found a Shop Towel Mask How To video that is great. I have ten or so in my truck, with tons of "hand prophylactics".

I was at the local Mennonite Feed Store yesterday and they have really stepped up their game in terms of toilet paper, home brewed hand goop and sprays. The owner is a friend of mine and gave me a 1% discount

Originally Posted by cabmando

Keep in mind, the mask isn't so much protecting you as it is protecting others from you.

I wish more people understood that. I keep seeing folks driving solo in their cars with their masks on.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I wish more people understood that. I keep seeing folks driving solo in their cars with their masks on.

I saw someone doing that the other day. I wanted to yell out my window "The ghost in the passenger seat says thank you!"

[Crowbob]

Solo mask in car is probably a good thing; make it part of your daily gear and have wearing one at all times when you leave the house become second nature. By the looks of things right now, we're gonna be wearing masks for awhile.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by RWebb

so are military bases

the key is who manages the land and what laws control their actions

e.g. suits over USFS clearcutting, BLM allowing grazing, and etc.

So ?

I suppose the mayor is king where you are. None of the local governments have done anything illegal in Oregon, is that right or you haven't looked hard enough ?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Solo mask in car is probably a good thing; make it part of your daily gear and have wearing one at all times when you leave the house become second nature.

I have one N95 that I’ve been using for 4 weeks. I don’t wear it while driving, I’m sure it collects moisture from my breath for one thing, plus they take a little effort to breath through. It’s not bad for an hour or so, but I feel sorry for people who have to wear one all day. That would be tiring.

[Crowbob]

I've got one of those N95's that I found on the bathroom floor at Home Depot. I slapped it on my arm a coupla times.

Works good.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Solo mask in car is probably a good thing

Til you pass out from your own carbon monoxide and crash! 🚗

[jyl]

I laid in a bunch of 3M respirators early on, and had a box of disposable N95 masks already. So far, I’ve worn a N95 mask only a few times, when grocery shopping. I carry a cloth mask with my wallet, pop it on when entering other places. Once I tried wearing the cloth mask over the N95 as an experiment, it was unpleasant. Haven’t worn the respirators, kept just one per family member and gave the rest to HCW I know.

[pmax]

Not moving the goal posts in Colorado...

Gov. Jared Polis outlined why now was the time to lift Colorado’s statewide stay-at-home order and gave an update on “Level Two” of the state’s COVID-19 response: Safer-at-Home.

“Why now?” Polis said on Monday from the state Capitol. “Our modeling shows that we can handle the caseload and that we need to figure out how to do this in a sustainable way.”

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“We bought time to build our healthcare capacity,” Polis said, referring to the now-lifted stay-at-home order. That includes purchasing masks, gloves, face shields and other personal protective equipment and hiring medical staff. “The goal was never to eradicate the virus in the United States. It’s unrealistic."

Starting Monday, retail businesses can reopen with curbside pickup, and are allowed to reopen their doors to customers on Friday with strict precautions. In-person real estate showings are allowed to resume as well, but not open houses.

On May 4, commercial businesses can open with up to 50 percent of employees working in-person. Critical and non-critical businesses and retailers with over 50 employees in one location should implement symptom screening like temperature checks. Gatherings of 10 people or more are still not allowed.

https://www.cpr.org/2020/04/27/polis-lifts-statewide-stay-at-home-order-saying/