The "Second Wave"

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by pmax

Above 20% in NYC.

0.6% mortality with the crowded inner cities bearing the brunt.



Makes sense.

About 11 or 12 per known case.

So, we have 4 antibody trials to date. (That I know of)

Two on the east coast in high case areas
Chelsea with 15 to 1
NY with 11 or 12 to 1

Two from the west coast in lower infection rate areas..
Standord with 50-85 to 1
USC with 28-55

[island911]

Originally Posted by jyl

You’ve looked at your state’s curve? I don’t see any/much flattening.

So you are saying that past 6 weeks of shut-down didn't do what it was supposed to do.

...and so the only conclusion is that they need more.

rrriiiight....

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by NY65912

There is a distinct difference between going to the store with protection on and having or going to gatherings. The mayor is talking about social gatherings and events where people are in close proximity. I went to the doctor yesterday. I wore a mask and gloves, took an Uber and felt totally fine with it. There are still people out and about here doing their business. I think there may be some level of "freedom paranoia" developing.

It’s pretty obvious there is a lot oof “freedom paranoia” going on. I live in Ohio, where we have fairly strict social distancing rules. We aren’t supposed to leave our property except for necessities. Once a week I hit the rounds of the grocery, lumber company, farm store, and pharmacy. All those stores are open and I’m not violating any rules. Where is anyone not allowed out to tend to necessities?

[jyl]

Originally Posted by island911

So you are saying that past 6 weeks of shut-down didn't do what it was supposed to do.

...and so the only conclusion is that they need more.

rrriiiight....

We’ve flattened our curve pretty effectively in OR. Not sure what is going on in IL or the other states with still-steep curves. I’d hope the state govt is figuring it out. c

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

It’s pretty obvious there is a lot oof “freedom paranoia” going on.

I'm curious why it's only the fringe alt right that has been afflicted with this disease. Who gave it to them? Who is organizing them? How far will their puppet masters go? That's what I want to know.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I'm curious why it's only the fringe alt right that has been afflicted with this disease. Who gave it to them? Who is organizing them? How far will their puppet masters go? That's what I want to know.

The Tea party was cancelled... couldn't have eleven idjuts in the same room any longer

[pmax]

1 in 5 means everyone unless they have been hiding in the basement for the past few months has been in contact with an infected.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I'm curious why it's only the fringe alt right that has been afflicted with this disease. Who gave it to them? Who is organizing them? How far will their puppet masters go? That's what I want to know.

I think it’s a bunch of people generally pissed off that life isn’t what they imagine it used to be and a bunch of politicians willing to exploit them.

[KFC911]

LOL....the Obama reign of terror ?

[legion]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/napolitano-unconstitutional-stay-at-home-orders

Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said on Tuesday that stay-at-home orders from governors across the U.S. are unconstitutional because creating laws is a power delegated solely to legislatures

“The government has to recognize that the rights that are in the Constitution still exist in bad times as well as in good and it has to treat people equally,” Napolitano told “Fox & Friends.”

“If you can get in a line of cars to buy a cheeseburger at McDonald's, you can get in a line of cars to express your opinion about the government."

[dafischer]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I'm curious why it's only the fringe alt right that has been afflicted with this disease. Who gave it to them? Who is organizing them? How far will their puppet masters go? That's what I want to know.

Take it to PARF, shaun.

[450knotOffice]

I'm honestly surprised that some feel that only the fringe alt right are concerned about this lockdown. What kind of bubble do people like RWebb, Shaun, etc. live in?

[speeder]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

I'm honestly surprised that some feel that only the fringe alt right are concerned about this lockdown. What kind of bubble do people like RWebb, Shaun, etc. live in?

I'm going to agree w you here, lots of people are upset about the stay-at-home orders but it's really not a lock-down. I can jump in my car/motorcycle/bicycle anytime I want here in LA and roam the city. There is just not as many places to go w all of the businesses shut down.

The fringe alt-right is being fed a particular narrative w plenty of dis- and misinformation wrt Marshall Law, conspiracy theories, etc. The disinformation campaign is working really well w some even spreading BS here.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by speeder

I'm going to agree w you here, lots of people are upset about the stay-at-home orders but it's really not a lock-down. I can jump in my car/motorcycle/bicycle anytime I want here in LA and roam the city.

Yes, you can do that, just like a person under house arrest can chose to walk out of their house if they want. Because neither of you have an armed guard at your door.

But if you do jump in your car or motorcycle to enjoy roaming the city, you are violating multiple stay-at-home orders (state and local) and, I quote, “can be fined, imprisoned or both.”

[speeder]

Not if I maintain social distancing and wear a mask around other people. I got coffee at my regular place this morning, (served to-go at the door), plenty of LAPD officers standing around doing the same.

People are overly dramatizing the current health orders and spreading a lot of BS...wonder why?

[McLovin]

Again, if you do what you said in your post, you’re breaking the law and are subject to fine and/or imprisonment.
You are only legally allowed to leave your house for a few very narrowly defined reasons.

[McLovin]

Perhaps read your state and LA orders.

[McLovin]

“Everyone is required to stay home except to get food, care for a relative or friend, get necessary health care, or go to an essential job.”

“ if you don’t follow the Order, you can be fined, imprisoned, or both.”

[McLovin]

No overdramatizing, that’s the Orders you’re living under, word for word. Just the facts.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

So the orders are all fine so long as they’re not enforced right?

Let me ask a really simple question - so simple even a TDSing moron can figure out the answer to it:

“If they had no intention of ever enforcing those rules, why bother making them in the first place?”

And a follow-up:

“What happens when they DO start enforcing them?”