Why was Step/Tiptronic given no respect like PDK ?

[sugarwood]

Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling.

Ahh, sheddep....

....Who cares? My old Tip car worked fine.
Was able to keep it in a low gear like I would a manual.
No grown adult is racer boy on public roads xcept Magnus.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Ask a question just to answer it? Odd.

How about neither one is as fun as a true manual gearbox.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

[I] My old Tip car worked fine.
Was able to keep it in a low gear like I would a manual.
No grown adult is racer boy on public roads xcept Magnus.

That’s the same as any automatic transmission from the last 70 years.
“Tiptronic” didn’t advance anything significant in automatic transmission technology (other than a kind of cool name). So it’s not thought of much.

[Scott Douglas]

Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

[GH85Carrera]

PDK is magical and can read the driver's mind.
Tiptronic is just a gussied up automatic.

[Deschodt]

I suspect Sugarwood is paid by pelican to start threads in the forum... Why xxxxxx ??? discuss... Might even be a bot...

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

At least with Sporto's you still got to shift....just eliminated a pedal. I always wanted to drive one of those just to check it out.

[manbridge 74]

Salesmen found them hard to sell. Especially cabs equipped with ladytronic....

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

I suspect Sugarwood is paid by pelican to start threads in the forum... Why xxxxxx ??? discuss... Might even be a bot...

Not much pay, with just 6,000+ posts.

Even with all my posts I get less than a grand per month.

[masraum]

Slushbox = not sporty
manual transmission with servo operated clutch and magic shifting due to being in 2 gears at once = sporty.

[wildthing]

I've never driven a PDK, but I did test drive a 95 Tip. Just not as fun, and the gear changes were not as quick. I did drive a DSG for a while and that was quite fast and was pleased with it.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by wildthing

I've never driven a PDK, but I did test drive a 95 Tip. Just not as fun, and the gear changes were not as quick. I did drive a DSG for a while and that was quite fast and was pleased with it.

PDK shifts are measured in milliseconds. Seamless, and all you really notice is the change in engine RPM. On a track it is just already in the right gear ready for you. And it even downshifts as you come to a corner. It is spooky how good it is.

My wife's Macan has PDK. I was lucky enough to go up to Hallet Motorsport track twice and "forced" to drive a Boxster S, Cayman S and a 911 S and a Panamara Turbo 4S and a Macan GTS. Yep, pretty tough duty.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Tiptronic was just a fancy version of moving the lever from 1-2-3. That’s it.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

Even after it won class at Le Mans....

[oldE]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling.

Ahh, sheddep....

Ignorince and prejudice.
The two usually go hand in hand.

Best
Les

[rattlsnak]

This sums it up.. "Tiptronic is an automatic transmission. PDK is a manual transmission that shifts automatically..."

I have a PDK and will never go back to a traditional shifter gear box.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

PDK shifts are measured in milliseconds. Seamless.

My understanding is that the PDK puts the transmission in the current gear AND the next gear at the same time. That's why it's so fast.

[rattlsnak]

Originally Posted by masraum

My understanding is that the PDK puts the transmission in the current gear AND the next gear at the same time. That's why it's so fast.

Correct. it has a dual clutch setup. One in gear and the next gear is pre selected and ready to go..

[rusnak]

What are you guys even talking about?

[rattlsnak]

The "pop" sound it makes when it shifts is euphoric.. The downshifts are insane in Sport mode.

Several great sounds in this video but listen @ 4:34 ish.. and then the downshifts at 5:03. That is exactly why PDKs rule!