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The sun's fusion "works" because of the mass. The Neutrons are not lost because there is so much mass around to absorb them when released. And if you keep the neutrons, you keep the energy, since 80% spins off as fast neutrons. My Nuke E professors carried a grapefruit into class. He would ask each class, "How big is a U235 fission critical mass?" He would hold up the grapefruit. The he would ask "How big is a critical mass for fusion?" He would point at the late afternoon sun...
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Because the neutrons produced hold 80% of the energy. And keeping THOSE in the mass is difficult, since the neutrons have a, well, neutral charge.
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What else would you do with a sex bot...
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We actually understand why aging happens..or at least the principal of why the body slows regeneration.. I think we’ll see extended lifespans in the next 30-40 years. ...
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presently being researched is the stellarator, an adaptation of the 'classical' toroidal magnetic confinement device design. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/stellarators A review of the Cool Science Story Of The Day [Continuing Thread] might be in order as I recall the mention of fusion more than once. So 'til then, Cheers JB
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The problem is the debate has been settled and it does not include coal, NG, nukes, fission or fusion, just delusion.
Follow the money, folks. We need a clean sheet approach to power generation: an honest appraisal of near and far term alternatives.
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Is fusion sustainable? Where will all the Hydrogen (if that is the fuel of choice)come from? Hydrolysis of water works but water is a finite source.
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I cobbed this info from from the ITER website: Fusion reactors (e.g. ITER) use only a few grams of fuel at any given moment (hydrogen isotopes - deuterium & tritium) in their fusion reaction plasmas. It should be noted a fusion reaction is a few orders of magnitude more efficient than any chemical reaction. Deuterium, a virtually inexhaustible & harmless resource can be distilled from seawater - fresh water also. Tritium, a radioactive isotope only occurs naturally in trace quantities but can be 'bred' during a fusion reaction with lithium. Lithium is also readily extracted from seawater. This infers reserves are virtually unlimited & enough to meet our energy requirements for as long as we as a species exist here on the planet & provided we don't terminally eff things up. The other caveat is: can we make the b**stard work. So you're good to go Bud - but I think we both could use a hockey fix at the moment. Cheers JB
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Just my opinion but this thread should be a sticky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER Here's a recent video: Dec 17, 2020
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And we'll use fission until we figure out the "final" power source: direct matter to energy conversion.
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An update of sorts: https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/science/lattice-confinement-fusion/
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That is just as realistic as the solar and wind providing enough energy to power the world.
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Still doesn't solve the real problem of sustaining the reaction
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Solar can provide all the power we need. They will look like Mickey Mouse ears on the planet.
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Again some future energy source is solar collectors in space, and magically beamed to Earth for use as electricity.
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Mickey Mouse ears!!!
They will be outside the atmosphere and rotate around the earth! They will be visible from the ground. Think - Mickey Mouse ears!
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