I would probably be more concerned about those that spend so much of their time trying to silence those they disagree with. I know this is a German car forum...but that is just un-American.

What makes it worse is that most are the same ones who make so many posts that are largely just personal attacks...or make clearly political posts and are shocked when someone responds with a similarly political (but better informed) answer.

Z-man has done a great job...not taking sides and not allowing crybabies to get other posters banned for the same behavior as those that complain about the do every day (just from a different political perspective). It is great he is getting some help, but the fact that so many are constantly lobbying for new mods to be the personal enforcer of their own political ideology (as in the past) is disturbing. If you want to post about political topics and feel your feces are less odiferous than that of others, bring it to PARF and see if you ideas/argument can stand up to scrutiny, otherwise you are the problem that you whine about so much.

Just to put my mouth where my mind is-(winter to do)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1636325622.jpg

LOL. I have boxes of parts sitting here waiting to install...but it is too freaking cold in the garage in the winter. Maybe in the spring. Hope it is warmer there on Uranus.

PARF is a sewer that overflows onto PPOT. Remove it and a lot of smelly problems either manage themselves by leaving or become so much more manageable.

I never would have thought anyone would call for combining PARF with OT. I can't disagree...but it would sure get some pink panties in a wad in OT. Who would they complain about then?

Okay. Move along. Your points have been made.

What's the rules on stuff like this?

I get it's almost certainly fair game in PARF but as it's a sig it shows up in every forum where the member posts.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1636331454.png

We have members with all sorts of stuff in their sig line. I'll ignore it just like I do virtually every other sig short of the person's name if it's posted.

So you are saying we can break the rules by putting stuff in our sig?

Cool.

It seems to me that sig targets a politician. Fair game, I think.

Whatever floats your boat. I think it would be a solid plan to test the moderators. :)

That's where I'm at. And we're not saying people can't talk politics. We just want it to happen in the forum designed specifically for it.

That's the point, if it's in a sig, it breaks containment.

Trying to understand why that's allowed?

If it were in the body of a post outside of PPOT what's the call and how does it being in a sig make it any different?

My opinion, it doesn't.

Is that a threat?

You, one of the mods just said sigs are ignored so I said cool.

They either are or are not.

You want to help clean things up.

Great, I commend that but the message needs to be consistent.

No one is impartial but part of a mods responsibilities are to put aside their personal bias as best they can which often means making a call that goes against your personal position.

Your call on that specific sig does not feel impartial.

No threats here! Just saying I think it would be a solid plan to test the mods.
I'm all sorts of impartial. I had to give a friend a warning earlier due to a post here in this thread. Now, I'd suggest you drop it.

And to be crystal clear here, I don't care about anyone's opinion relating to what I do as a moderator or how you feel about my impartiality. If you don't like what I do, there's an X in the top right corner. Use it.

Indirect threats are still threats just as indirect insults are still insults. If things are going to get better, the leaders need to set the examples.

No threats direct or indirect. I just think it's a solid plan to test the moderators. Now move along nothing to see here.

I'm looking for clarity here.

Rules say to keep politics in PARF and that sig breaks that rule.

We also have rules about profanity and bypassing the filters in place to sneak it in.

That sig breaks those rule everywhere on the Pelican Forums where that member posts outside of PPOT.

I'd like a proper explanation other than we ignore sigs because if that is the official position I'd like to know.

I question your ability to be impartial here when you posted this not two days ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/11509520-post3.html

To be clear, the responsibility of being a mod does not give you carte blanche to disregard the rules you are meant to enforce because you agree with the content in question.

Yes?

No?

Tell ya what. You want clarity and impartiality, step up and become a mod. How's that for clarity? I'll step down the moment you step up. Deal?

Wow! Things sure got quiet really fast.