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red 928 04-05-2023 11:52 AM

Why do they let them work on the cars during a red flag?
Makes no sense to me.

No changing tires and no repairs would make things
a little more reasonable and maybe the goons
would be more careful.
But that wouldn't make for good TV, would it?

A long, long time ago I was a fan of the NBA.
Then one day I realized I didn't have to watch the entire game,
just the last minute of it (which BTW took 15 minutes to play).
Playing well during the game and building up a big lead was wasted effort, by design the game
would effectively negate the lead with all the time-outs, clock stoppages, etc.
F1 has unfortunately taken that same ignorant path.

Deschodt 04-05-2023 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 11965421)
Why do they let them work on the cars during a red flag?
Makes no sense to me.

The idea I believe is there's been a crash, you could be driving on debris (picked up by a hot tire) and that could cause a dangerous puncture down the road.
Now should you be able to change compound ? Car repairs ? I'm in agreement with you, probably not. Also I find the standing restart gimmicky and it tends to cause more red flags. Restart single file, that's close enough !

herr_oberst 04-08-2023 06:49 PM

Ahh, memory lane.

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GH85Carrera 04-12-2023 12:07 PM

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Ouch. And very true!

yellowperil 04-21-2023 08:55 AM

What a long time with no racin'. The drivers will be old men when they get goin' again!!

GH85Carrera 04-21-2023 09:47 AM

Yea, it seems weird to start so early, and then have a "spring break" for so long.

red 928 04-21-2023 10:51 AM

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Captain Ahab Jr 04-21-2023 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11979625)
What a long time with no racin'. The drivers will be old men when they get goin' again!!

The racing never stops, been busy since the last race, racing many late nights, a weekend and public holidays

I feel like an old man so looking forward to relaxing and watching next weekends race

GH85Carrera 04-21-2023 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 11979839)
The racing never stops, been busy since the last race, racing many late nights, a weekend and public holidays

I feel like an old man so looking forward to relaxing and watching next weekends race

Yea, I suspect like all F1 racing teams are always working on improvements, behind closed doors. The fans never see it.

We just want to see the race on track.

astrochex 04-21-2023 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 11979839)
The racing never stops, been busy since the last race, racing many late nights, a weekend and public holidays

I feel like an old man so looking forward to relaxing and watching next weekends race

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11979885)
Yea, I suspect like all F1 racing teams are always working on improvements, behind closed doors. The fans never see it.

We just want to see the race on track.

I would love to see real, behind the scenes stuff too. Sometimes, the race ain’t all that.

Captain Ahab Jr 04-21-2023 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11979885)
Yea, I suspect like all F1 racing teams are always working on improvements, behind closed doors. The fans never see it.

We just want to see the race on track.

Me too, me too!

It never stops...if you stop or even pause for a few days you get left behind :( it's hard just maintaining position and incredibly hard/almost impossible to catch teams in front of you

Every team is busy designing/manufacturing areodynamic/mechanical updates for this seasons races

Also being worked on in parallel is the design of next year's car and even simulating/laying out the design as far ahead as the new regulation 2026 cars

Sadly for the fans I don't think any team would agree to a behind the scenes Netflix type show, it would cost them too much of a competitive advantage

astrochex 04-21-2023 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 11979981)
Me too, me too!

It never stops...if you stop or even pause for a few days you get left behind :( it's hard just maintaining position and incredibly hard/almost impossible to catch teams in front of you

Every team is busy designing/manufacturing areodynamic/mechanical updates for this seasons races

Also being worked on in parallel is the design of next year's car and even simulating/laying out the design as far ahead as the new regulation 2026 cars

Sadly for the fans I don't think any team would agree to a behind the scenes Netflix type show, it would cost them too much of a competitive advantage

Totally understand the last bit. No one is going to give away their blood, sweat, and tears for the sake of entertainment. It would be stupid really. But its fun to ask. :D

Your point about a daily pause even making a difference is eye opening.

herr_oberst 04-24-2023 07:03 AM

Geezus. I doubt if the apology and sacking will fend off a hefty lawsuit from the family.
Seems we're going to have to be reminded of this tragedy on a fairly regular basis. I can't imagine what his wife goes through.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-23/magazine-apologises-schumacher-ai-interview-sacks-editor/102257394

matthewb0051 04-24-2023 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 11965421)
Why do they let them work on the cars during a red flag?
Makes no sense to me.

No changing tires and no repairs would make things
a little more reasonable and maybe the goons
would be more careful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11965441)
The idea I believe is there's been a crash, you could be driving on debris (picked up by a hot tire) and that could cause a dangerous puncture down the road.
Now should you be able to change compound ? Car repairs ? I'm in agreement with you, probably not. Also I find the standing restart gimmicky and it tends to cause more red flags. Restart single file, that's close enough !

I heard the debris argument in the last race or two (its been so long I don't remember which). Total bollocks if you ask me.

The problem I have with it is one driver pits a lap or two before SC or VSC or Red Flag. They get penalized, especially on Red Flag, when all competitors get to change tires without having a 20+ second pit stop and remain in their position above the unlucky sod that pitted under green flag.

This break has really sucked. I've been pretty ambivalent recently about the races and this isn't helping.

GH85Carrera 04-24-2023 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11982062)
I heard the debris argument in the last race or two (its been so long I don't remember which). Total bollocks if you ask me.

The problem I have with it is one driver pits a lap or two before SC or VSC or Red Flag. They get penalized, especially on Red Flag, when all competitors get to change tires without having a 20+ second pit stop and remain in their position above the unlucky sod that pitted under green flag.

This break has really sucked. I've been pretty ambivalent recently about the races and this isn't helping.

Yea, every red flag is long enough to inspect the tires carefully. If indeed they find damage, they can change tires with the identical tire, so they still have to come in for a pit stop during the race. There has to be a better system than the red flag lottery of free tire changes. And there should be 100% no adjustment to the aero setting. Anything that can't be done without a pit stop is forbidden.

s_morrison57 04-25-2023 05:11 AM

I thought a month long break was goofy then heard it was cause the Chinese GP was cancelled, made more sense but a lot of teams needed this break. Maybe things will be closer mid pack and maybe some changes up front too.
I'm looking for Lance to do something, the wrist should be a non-issue, lots of experience, finally a decent car, it's time to earn your ride or step aside. IMO

stealthn 04-25-2023 06:19 AM

I wonder if Alonso dating Taylor Swift will screw up his championship run? Lol

Deschodt 04-26-2023 09:58 AM

Tost is retiring form alpha Tauri... Will be replaced by Laurent Mekies (ex Ferrari) - the one that looks like a musketeer ;-)

Deschodt 04-27-2023 07:51 AM

Not a joke.. the boy is a talented piano player !

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Maybe he can use the proceeds to buy some over the cap engineering for his Ferrari !

David 04-28-2023 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 11982616)
I wonder if Alonso dating Taylor Swift will screw up his championship run? Lol

It's a pretty funny rumor but I think they should give it a shot anyway. She's only 8 years younger :)

I flew out of Houston on Monday and almost every girl I saw had a Taylor Swift T-shirt or sweatshirt on from the weekend's concerts. I can't imagine how much money she brings in.

Rtrorkt 04-28-2023 07:08 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/formula1/63206451

Ferrari on pole for Baku

Deschodt 04-28-2023 09:51 AM

I really like Carlos Sainz overall, but 0.8 behind his team mate ? give it up man, you are #2.

astrochex 04-28-2023 10:11 AM

Charles is my man.

Even if he has race pace, it will be impossible to defend against the Red Bull magic drs. I hate drs. A lot.

Captain Ahab Jr 04-29-2023 02:00 PM

Really I'm not a fan of having F1 Sprint Races, just seems like a needless, exoensive distraction for the drivers and teams :rolleyes:

Wasn't anything like a Sprint, seemed half a race at best :confused:

What gimick will F1@Netfix.con come up with next, divide Sunday race into quarters or 7 innings :D

GH85Carrera 04-29-2023 02:10 PM

I am totally confused. I saw one practice, then an old school conventional F1 qualifying. Then ESPN decided to show men fighting, I think it was basketball or hockey, but sure not the F1 second Qualifying that I really don't understand??? Then we got to watch a sprint race, and some points awarded, but the winner starts in P3 for tomorrows race. WTF, were the rules guys on toking on some really good weed and laughing and saying left make qualifying a total guessing game.

I still have no idea how they selected the starting positions for the actual race. I guess tomorrow I will see how it goes.

I sure hope the druggies in charge of this are all fired, and we go back to the standard three practices, conventional qualifying, and a normal race. And maybe someday ESPN will stop showing corn hole games, and a bunch of talking heads talking about how they watched other grown men playing a kids game with a ball, and how that made them feel.

URY914 04-29-2023 06:42 PM

Max is a baby.

rfuerst911sc 04-30-2023 05:14 AM

Pretty boring race but happy for the winner .

rfuerst911sc 04-30-2023 06:01 AM

I wonder what Ocon thought when he pulled into pit lane and saw a wall of reporters blocking his entry . Very fortunate no one was hurt . I am sure that debacle is under review .

Rtrorkt 04-30-2023 06:32 AM

Slightly off the current topic,

Have an offer. I am a marshal at Miami F1 and for that they provide one general admission ticket. I have offered it to my friends in the SW and on the West Coast but no takers.

So I thought I would see if a pelican would like to use it. I am not quite sure how I will get it. Assume at checkin on Wednesday. Hotel is the Westin Ft Lauderdale. Figure I could leave it with the front desk. If someone wants the ticket, please pm me. I will take the requests in order I receive them.

astrochex 04-30-2023 07:12 AM

^Thats very generous! Congrats on getting a marshal gig.

Todays race was yawner. Fred made it somewhat interesting by closing on LeClerc. No red flags though, so thats a positive.

GH85Carrera 04-30-2023 08:06 AM

One of the tracks that is only interesting is there is a yellow or red flag, and then it comes down to the luck of track position when the flag it thrown.

It was funny to see the rear wheel of Max's car at the finish, and see the scratches and abrasions from brushing the wall. And many other drivers clipped or bounced off of the wall. I just can't imaging pushing so hard that I slide withing milometers of the wall. No need to enforce tack limits with a white line when the wall does that.

David 04-30-2023 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11986870)
I wonder what Ocon thought when he pulled into pit lane and saw a wall of reporters blocking his entry . Very fortunate no one was hurt . I am sure that debacle is under review .

I saw that coming a lap away. You really have to wonder when they have dozens of people monitoring everything that that could happen. Of course, sitting in front of the tv, we only have one thing to think about.

chapo 04-30-2023 07:33 PM

Ho hum, Indy race was the winner this weekend

oldE 05-01-2023 02:55 AM

I got a chuckle from the Aston Martin radio calls.
Stroll to his engineer when he was running a half second behind Alonso. "Tell Fernando I will not attack. "
Alonso 's response, "He can have a go, if he wants."
Later, when Lance was falling back,"Tell Lance to try my balance settings."
Sort of like running with your big brother.

Best
Les

Rtrorkt 05-01-2023 08:11 AM

Will try this one more time.

I have a general admission ticket for Miami F1 that I receive as part of being a marshal. If a pelican wants it, please reply. See my entry above

Deschodt 05-01-2023 08:21 AM

Friend of mine got himself 2 VIP tix for Vegas - $8000 each ! Is F1 jumping the shark right now ?
I hear that The hotels figured out ways to block the view for whoever is not paying thru the nose... Makes the above offer for a miami ticket all the more generous !

Best car thing this w/e was... Luftgekuhlt !

GH85Carrera 05-01-2023 10:18 AM

Since the first race in Austin, the local hotel rates go up 400% or more over normal. The Miami and Las Vegas F1 races will be just more of the same, rape the attendees for every penny possible.

matthewb0051 05-03-2023 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11987787)
Friend of mine got himself 2 VIP tix for Vegas - $8000 each ! Is F1 jumping the shark right now ?
I hear that The hotels figured out ways to block the view for whoever is not paying thru the nose... Makes the above offer for a miami ticket all the more generous !

Best car thing this w/e was... Luftgekuhlt !

My interest is on the decline, unfortunately. Been a fan since at least the 80s, and watched religiously since the early 90s.

This past weekend (Saturday) I was working on one of our fleet of Land Rovers when a cousin called asking if I wanted to go to the coast and fly fish Sunday. Yes sir, I got skunked but still had a great time. I didn't even miss not seeing the race. I watched a replay late Sunday evening. Ho hum.

The Miami and Lost Wages races aren't helping my waning interest.

Noah930 05-03-2023 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 11987774)
Will try this one more time.

I have a general admission ticket for Miami F1 that I receive as part of being a marshal. If a pelican wants it, please reply. See my entry above

That's a super generous offer. Thanks for thinking of your Pelican brethren.

DerkPerk 05-05-2023 06:42 PM

These FPs are not proving the track to be any better than it was last year. One line makes for a boring Sunday…


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