Rust armorer found guilty

[tadd]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I would hope that this "reasonable expectation of privacy" would apply to any private communication, regardless of the form. I would hope it would apply to locational tracking as well. We do have the right to not answer "where were you on the night of...". Just because an electronic device that we are carrying can answer that, it doesn't mean the authorities have any right to that. Not the one owned by the "suspect", anyway, as that would be self incrimination. Like the old days, witness reports on where one was, surveillance video, credit card transactions, etc. - sure. They are arguably "third party" accounts of one's whereabouts. One's cell phone is, to me, akin to self incrimination and should be disallowed.

Password protect and don't give up the password... and like the old days, do your talking in person. Putting stuff in writing is nuts if you wouldn't say it in front of your mom.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by tadd

Password protect and don't give up the password... and like the old days, do your talking in person. Putting stuff in writing is nuts if you wouldn't say it in front of your mom.

All good ideas that will protect our information should we lose our phones, or should someone who is not authorized to see what is on them comes across them. However, this in no way addresses authorities' right to access our personal conversations if we do not take these precautions. Authorities should not have the legal right to do this.

Texting has now supplanted actual conversation for many. It should have all of the same protections.

[javadog]

If you wish to communicate with someone and you do not wish there to be a record of that communication, do not send it over a phone in any way, shape or form. No voice calls, no text messages, no emails, no use of encrypted apps like WhatsApp.

Do not hop on your laptop, desktop, or notebook and send an email, or Facebook message or anything else, either.

Do not send them a letter in the US mail. Aside from leaving a permanent copy in someone else’s hands, the USPS has a PDF image of everything that goes through the mail system.

Communicate in person. Preferably outside, away from any electronic devices in a building and with neither of you having any personal electronic devices upon your person.

[Steve Carlton]

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[sc_rufctr]

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According to the movie Snowden placing a mobile phone in a microwave oven disables it. I don't know if that would work for sure but it sounds plausible to me. If you want to disable the phone permanently just turn the oven on for a while.

Info from the local police and media: A few years ago a bunch of guys decided to terrorise a local business owner (illicit drug related). They were all "Bikers" or "associates" including the business owner. They met at a house near the place of business and they all turned off their phones and left them at the house. They then travelled to the place of business and proceed to beat up the owner and damage the property (car crash repairs). But things got our of hand and the business owner was killed.

They all left and went back to the house to collect their phones... Can you guess what they did when they got back to the house?

The police could see from the phone records that all of the phones were turned off and then back on again at the same time and location. The house was a "safe house" but the police had known about it for a long time. The smart thing to do would be to leave their phones at home but apparently being a "Biker" or "associate" doesn't require a lot of intelligence.

These idiots used a "custom made secure mobile phone" for world wide communication via txt. As it turned out it was a device that your FBI with the assistance of The Australian Federal Police built using a generic smart phone sourced from China. This was "made available" to the criminals through and informant and used globally! Yea well, not the sharpest knives in the draw... lol

ANOM - World wide sting

[Tobra]

I think a microwave oven works as a Faraday cage.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I think a microwave oven works as a Faraday cage.

Yes that's right but it wouldn't stop the police or FBI from tacking you to that location.
- And then at some point you'll take it out again so "they'll" have confirmation of your location once again.

I think the point they were trying to make in Snowden is that a smart phone can be used to listen into conversation happening in the room. IMO That's highly unlikely but I wouldn't say it's impossible.

Do you remember the husband and wife terrorists in the US from a few years ago? - How long did it take the FBI to defeat the encryption on the wife's iPhone? - 2 or 3 days from memory. The FBI initially asked Apple for help but they refused.

All of this relates to "Java's" last post above. Smart phones are cool and all that but they're also are a very effective tracking device.

[Arizona_928]

They can be remotely activated video and audio. Let that sink in.

Go into a security brief. Leave your phones in a bucket at the door to the room.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

They can be remotely activated video and audio. Let that sink in.

Go into a security brief. Leave your phones in a bucket at the door to the room.

I'm almost sure that was true at some point but you'd think that would have been fixed with a security update from the manufacturers.

Or am I being naive?

[Crowbob]

Yes.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Yes.

lol...

[javadog]

I should remind you of the NSA’s routine practice of vacuuming up essentially every electronic communication in this country and putting it into a database.

And I should remind you of an arcane agreement that allows three contractors for the federal government to search through that database.

Lastly, I will remind you that tens of thousands of illegal searches of that database have been done. Read the FISC annual report that describes this illegal activity; every single year, it’s the same thing. Five years ago Adm. Mike Rogers tried to cut down on the illegal activity by limiting certain things but it continues to this very day.

Everybody in DC knows this happens, nobody ever gets a handle on it.

[craigster59]

Originally Posted by javadog

Communicate in person. Preferably outside, away from any electronic devices in a building and with neither of you having any personal electronic devices upon your person.

We call that "The Mafia Walk". Just leave your stuff on your desk and go outside and walk and discuss.

BTW, looks like the chickens have come home to roost.....

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-movie-armorer-civil-lawsuit-prop-distributor

[berettafan]

Saw this elsewhere...

[Eric 951]

Originally Posted by craigster59

We call that "The Mafia Walk". Just leave your stuff on your desk and go outside and walk and discuss.

BTW, looks like the chickens have come home to roost.....

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-movie-armorer-civil-lawsuit-prop-distributor

still zero accountability from the (3) most responsible-- the armourer, baldwin, and AD

[T77911S]

heck, employers are requiring access to facebook and other media. whats the difference.

[sc_rufctr]

Family of Halyna Hutchins sues Alec Baldwin over Rust film set shooting

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/15/halyna-hutchins-family-sues-alec-baldwin-rust-shooting

[T77911S]

of course they did.

I like the video.
kind of a counter punch to AB saying he DIDNT pull the trigger.


they say they had been shooting the gun with live ammo. someone will come out about that and who was shooting. if AB did it or new about it he is screwed.

[matthewb0051]

Here it is from YouTube

[302340]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10736177/New-Mexico-fines-Rust-willful-gun-safety-failures.html

"Alec Baldwin has claimed he's been exonerated over the death of a cinematographer he accidentally shot dead by a new report blasting producers of the film whose set witnessed the tragedy.

The actor issued the statement shortly after New Mexican Occupational Health and Safety Bureau officials levied the maximum fine against the producers of Rust, the western movie on whose set Halyna Hutchins was shot and killed by Baldwin in October 2021.

Executive producers were hit with a $136,793 film - the maximum available. Baldwin himself was a producer, but highlighted a passage in the investigation which said that he was involved in the script and casting - but not safety procedures. ...

In Baldwin's statement, his PR team cited how officials only named Halls and another staffer, Property Master Sarah Zachary - two of three employees to handle the gun before it was passed to Baldwin - as responsible for safety slip-ups that resulted in Hutchins' death, ignoring assertions that the company as a whole should be held 'fully accountable' for the failures. ..."


Lee