Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

[Mulholland]

On June 1, 2004, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth sent a cease and desist letter to John Kerry for President, Inc. on behalf of 11 officers shown in the photograph, pointing out that using their images in a campaign advertisement "wrongfully and incorrectly suggests their present endorsement of his candidacy."

SwiftBoatVeteransforTruth

[Mulholland]

John Kerry has long insisted that using the three-injury loophole to leave combat early was his own idea, but Kerry's fellow Swift officer Thomas Wright, who served on occasion as the OIC (Officer in Charge) of Kerry's boat group, contradicts that claim. Wright reports that he "had a lot of trouble getting Kerry to follow orders," and that those who worked with Kerry found him "oriented towards his personal, rather than unit goals and objectives." He therefore requested that Kerry be removed from his boat group. After John Kerry qualified for his third Purple Heart, Thomas Wright and two fellow officers informed him of the obscure regulation, and told him to go home. Wright concluded, "We knew how the system worked and we didn’t want him in Coastal Division 11."

[Moses]

From the doc who treated John Kerry for the "wound" that earned him his first purple heart:

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

3 or 4 mm deep? For that he requested a purple heart and was rejected by his CO. He appealed and was awarded the purple heart.

I'm not a republican, but he sure sounds like a colossal ass.

[on-ramp]

you guys are ridiculous, it's not even worth responding.

[lendaddy]

We know, atleast he went. Believe me we know.

[CamB]

I think it is - the glaring error in logic has to be addressed.

Previously, he was guilty of applying for three cushy Purple Hearts and cutting and running home.

Now, he is guilty of being a maverick and having his superiors tell him to jump ship before he is pushed. Did he want to leave or not? This is ridiculous.

You guys can't have your Kerry bashing cake and eat it too. You have to pick one story or the other:

- Kerry the girly Purple Heart wearer; OR
- Kerry the brave maverick.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by CamB
Previously, he was guilty of applying for three cushy Purple Hearts and cutting and running home.

Now, he is guilty of being a maverick and having his superiors tell him to jump ship before he is pushed. Did he want to leave or not? This is ridiculous.

I think it was a mix of the two...I think you unintentionally transposed "maverick" with "dangerous"...He was a pussy and dangerous because of it. He committed war crimes and endangered his brothers. They were glad to see him leave and a majority of his fellow combatants wanted him gone.

[lendaddy]

Must have missed the Maverick part? Hmm

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by CamB
I think it is - the glaring error in logic has to be addressed.

Previously, he was guilty of applying for three cushy Purple Hearts and cutting and running home.

Now, he is guilty of being a maverick and having his superiors tell him to jump ship before he is pushed. Did he want to leave or not? This is ridiculous.

You guys can't have your Kerry bashing cake and eat it too. You have to pick one story or the other:

- Kerry the girly Purple Heart wearer; OR
- Kerry the brave maverick.

How bout? "kerry the guy who realized you can marry more money in five minutes than you can make in a liftetime as a socialist politician."

[CamB]

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=maverick

John Kerry has long insisted that using the three-injury loophole to leave combat early was his own idea, but Kerry's fellow Swift officer Thomas Wright, who served on occasion as the OIC (Officer in Charge) of Kerry's boat group, contradicts that claim. Wright reports that he "had a lot of trouble getting Kerry to follow orders," and that those who worked with Kerry found him "oriented towards his personal, rather than unit goals and objectives."

This guy is accusing him of being a maverick.

[CamB]

Originally posted by pwd72s
How bout? "kerry the guy who realized you can marry more money in five minutes than you can make in a liftetime as a socialist politician."

Assuming that he likes her and she likes him - of which there is no proof otherwise - you are essentially pillorying him for not marrying a pauper.

Besides, I think they have a pre-nup (a concept I'm not wildly excited about myself, as it happens).

[lendaddy]

It just goes to the big picture as to what kind of guy he is. There are countless circumstancial things throughout his life which point to slime ball.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by CamB
Assuming that he likes her and she likes him - of which there is no proof otherwise - you are essentially pillorying him for not marrying a pauper.

It is the pattern of opportunism that is at issue...Heros don't boast, humble men don't seek out millionairesses to marry.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by CamB


This guy is accusing him of being a maverick.

No, he is calling him a dangerous scumbag.

[Mulholland]

"The facts are that 250 of Kerry's former shipmates, including 17 of the 24 officers in his division, signed a public letter saying he's not fit to be the commander-in-chief," said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, who commanded the fleet of swift boats during Kerry's tour of duty.

CNS

(liberal - an attack on Hoffmann does not discount the 250 veterans who didn't cut and run like Kerry)

[CamB]

250 former shipmates? How big are those boats?

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by CamB
250 former shipmates? How big are those boats?

They traveled in squadrons...close proximity in tight quarters.



There seems to be at least 12 boats here...Seems they weren't strangers...Very intimate.

[speeder]

So all of the crew members of his boat, which were on stage w/ him tonight are all scumbags/liars/traitors I suppose? They sure didn't look like it to me.

[fintstone]

Bet they got a lifetime supply of Ketchup!

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by speeder
So all of the crew members of his boat, which were on stage w/ him tonight are all scumbags/liars/traitors I suppose? They sure didn't look like it to me.

I report you decide.