Another Swift Boat combat memory turns fuzzy.

[island911]

Originally posted by speeder
Yeah, that's it Island!!

"Marina boat owners for truth"........

or how about: "Republican boat owners for truth"....

Givin' me a siezure here......

siezure, eh?

seems you've had a lot of those lately.

Ya know, you've got to breath thru your mouth when making these post . . . because we know you have GOT to be holding your nose. weee-huuuuuu. ..

Oh, I get it, you're tying to induce siezures in us.

[island911]

Originally posted by BillyIdaho
Sorry Island, You have shown nothing but a propensity for dodging the question.

Kerry has been on the two way range...Bush has not.
You said he (Bush) had experience under fire, like Kerry.
Still waiting for you to offer up this experience...Please answer the question. Thanks! Show me where I am wrong!. ..

ah. . yeah. . why don't YOU point out where I said Bush was shooting at an enemy.

What I said, in response to your curious statement "Experience Bush DOES NOT POSSESS." was:

You're kidding right!? Bush has 3 years experience fighting our newest threat (terrorism) and you compare that to Kerrys 4 months of swift-boat duty!?



end quote.

Ah. . I see it. . .. you have a limited understanding of the word "fighting" . . .apparently, for you, it must have only the single meaning of "being on the two way range."

[speeder]

Ron, Nothing personal, but my "beliefs" are that your *lawyer handing out medals* story is bull*****. The kind of story that you would hear in a bar full of BS artists back in the '70s.

Let me guess, these floating medal vendors only gave out awards to liberals or Democrats, right? So all Republicans won their medals of valor fair and square, right??

I mean come on. Really. How stupid do I have to make myself in order to be a good Republican these days?

[CamB]

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
CAM See:
Iran threatens strike against U.S., Israel
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40045

From that article:

Iran says it is deeply concerned about the U.S. military presence in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, and announced yesterday that some Iranian generals favor pre-emptive strikes against U.S. and Israeli forces if they sense an imminent threat.

Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani told al-Jazeera television Tehran will not stand by if it believes U.S. or Israeli forces are preparing an attack.

Sounds like the US invented doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against imminent threats.

But apparently what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

(edit) I better actually make a point. What you see here is chest thumping by the Iranians, in response to chest thumping by the Israelis. The Iranian response "some generals favor pre-emptive strokes" is a problem the US has brought on itself.

[CamB]

Originally posted by speeder
Ron, Nothing personal, but my "beliefs" are that your *lawyer handing out medals* story is bull*****. The kind of story that you would hear in a bar full of BS artists back in the '70s.

Let me guess, these floating medal vendors only gave out awards to liberals or Democrats, right? So all Republicans won their medals of valor fair and square, right??

I mean come on. Really. How stupid do I have to make myself in order to be a good Republican these days?

I reckon it is bollox too - if it was that easy, everyone would have requested 3 purple hearts and got out of there. As a 29 year-old, my overwhelming view of the Vietnam war was that it was fought by draftees who didn't want to be there.

This thread, and topic, is getting stupid.

My (obviously at least partially biased) view of the whole "Swift Boats vs Kerry" debate is that the SBV credibility has peaked.

Obviously, you believe what you want to believe when you read these the media articles, but unless you are one-eyed to the point of needing a pirates patch you would have to acknowledge that:

(a) the SBV have challenged Kerry's credibility and integrity; and
(b) they don't have much of said credibility or integrity themselves.

From now on, I'm gonna try and ignore this issue. Its stupid and negative. The baromoter of negativity and smear is firmly in the Republican camp right now.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by speeder
Ron, Nothing personal, but my "beliefs" are that your *lawyer handing out medals* story is bull*****. The kind of story that you would hear in a bar full of BS artists back in the '70s.

Let me guess, these floating medal vendors only gave out awards to liberals or Democrats, right? So all Republicans won their medals of valor fair and square, right??

I mean come on. Really. How stupid do I have to make myself in order to be a good Republican these days?

sorry for threatning you....

[Mulholland]

Interesting how nobody is bringing up this novel...Interesting how Kerry won't re-release it...Interesting how copies are very very hard to come by.

Just release your records like you said you would Mr. Kerry.



Love that upside down flag...So patriotic...So Purple Heart war-heroism...So full of ***** and pro-communist anti-Americanism.

Thanks Mr. Kerry, you singlehandedly won the war for Ho Chi Minh/Pol Pot/North Vietnam, let the communists torture and slaughter the Vietnamese dissenters, and assured a loogie as welcome home bouquet for our homecoming soldiers.

Motha@##$%%^$#%^#@@#$%^^&&$##@...

[CamB]

Interesting how nobody is bringing up this novel...Interesting how Kerry won't re-release it...Interesting how copies are very very hard to come by.

www.wintersoldier.com (there is a link to the text and pictures of the book on the left).

But then again, you know that because that is where you posted the link to that picture from. So it isn't "very very hard to come by" at all - in fact, it is freely available on the internet.

[speeder]

Originally posted by RoninLB
sorry for threatning you....

Not threatened in the least, pal, just laughing pretty hard at you.

[350HP930]

Originally posted by CamB
Sounds like the US invented doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against imminent threats.

I would say its a good example of what kind of precident bush has set except that germany and japan had set that precident long before bush did.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by speeder
Not threatened in the least, pal, just laughing pretty hard at you.

oh ok.. then violent reactions from you is routine... cool.

[speeder]

Bush is just doing his part to keep the tradition alive.

And of course we all know the history of success that those other countries had w/ the policy. This is what happens when you have a C-minus student as the most powerful leader in the world.

[techweenie]

The Swift Boat Invertebrates (as a local radio host calls them) have unwound even farther:

The other crew members on the skimmer where Kerry got his initial shrapnel wound, did not even recall William L. Schachte Jr, whose testimony in the book seems to put him in a position of scolding Kerry for his actions. I guess Schachte probably would have scolded Kerry had he been there, though.

OOPS!

[350HP930]

I think that even though the swift boat cretin's propaganda may play well with the hardcore bush-war lovers its going to hurt him bad with the swing voters he needs who can't stand the stench of such a blatant smear campaign.

[lendaddy]

In all seriousness, what evidence do you guys have that the SBV's are lying? I mean besides the "official" reports written by Kerry himself? Ok, I admit he did not write them all, but he was the source for the reports best I can tell. I know you guys want it to be false, but proof would be nice.

[speeder]

They should have hatched this ~2 weeks before the election, so that there would be no time to investigate or dispute them.

*****-for-brains.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by speeder
They should have hatched this ~2 weeks before the election, so that there would be no time to investigate or dispute them.

*****-for-brains.

That is what scumbags and liars do...It would appear that Rove (although Rove has nothing to do with it other than sit back and watch JFK squirm) and the Swifties agree that this exposee of the "real John Kerry" stands up all on its own.

Making an allegation 2 weeks before an election is cheap...But unfortunately you libs love cheap, without cheap you wouldn't have a single politician...sorta narrows the field to Kerryesque gold-diggers and McGreedyesque con-artisits.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by techweenie
The Swift Boat Invertebrates (as a local radio host calls them) have unwound even farther:

I assume you are talking about KPFK?(commie/Islamofascist public radio)

[350HP930]

I think this might be the plan for right before the election . . .

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by CamB
www.wintersoldier.com (there is a link to the text and pictures of the book on the left).

My point was that most copies have been destroyed and there has been no new release...I am not understanding something...In 1971 he was ashamed of his war hero status, even wrote a book about it, now he is proud of his "war hero" status and you cannot find a copy of the book if you tried.

The flips, the flops.