Pinup Art - need some opinions...

[dd74]

Originally posted by David McLaughlin
Here's where I'm torn. First and formost I am a Christian. I don't view the Janesko site anymore myself as it's against my beliefs. But I'm also an artist. I love so many forms of art and appreciate the tallent it takes to produce these pieces. So, it it were up to me, I'd be looking for pieces far less revealing than option #1 of the first post. The Nagels I own are no where near that resque.

I've gotten myself in trouble on another board. They accuse me of not liking the female form. That's not true. I just don't focus on one area, I view the human form as a whole.

David - I completely see your point. As a matter of fact, I was thinking about the Christian belief and this type of art (and others) and how they would coincide.

I'm still thinking about it, and will be sure to share what I come up with. This is an interesting subject, nonetheless.

[Joeaksa]

David,

Many of us are Christians. Go with what your head and heart says and be comfortable.

I have lived overseas and the Europeans feel much different about the body than we Americans do. DD will have to take this into account with his marketing.

JoeA

[Flatbutt1]

Old school for sure. For me it celebrates more of the sensual side of sexuality. The in your face modern art is just that in your face. Old school seems to try and capture at least some of the romance in sexuality. Plus I see a big difference in the bodies of the subjects. Old school isn't Rubinesque(sp?) but they aren't skinny and ripped. I'd love a collection of Vargas' work.

[HardDrive]

So Chrisitan men do not desire viewing naked women?

Or the desire is there, but they chose not to, as it is against their beliefs.

I don't believe #1, so its gotta be #2.

Lame.

What is the justification for this? Some rubish about not 'coveting' the women? Or your viewing of the 60 year old pictures somehow promotes sin?

I guess, I am being a bit of a jerk, but I would be interested to hear how viewing the pictures goes against ones faith.

btw, many of these pictures go against my belief in not view CRAP artwork. The girl with the gun on page 1.....yikes....CRAPIUS MAXIMUS.

[skipdup]

harddrive- what do you care? You got no dog in that fight.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally posted by Flatbutt1
Old school isn't Rubinesque(sp?) but they aren't skinny and ripped.

I think you may have hit upon it.

Though I would say that Rubenesque means "curvy", not "fat slob". Many of Frazetta's women fall into the tastefully curvy category.

I guess there's a not-so-fine line...

[HardDrive]

Originally posted by skipdup
harddrive- what do you care? You got no dog in that fight.

I'm just a damn troublemaker.

[Jared at Pelican Parts]

In the spirit of things, here's a shot of my leg

[}{arlequin]

Sorayama pinups












Edited. -Z-man.

[kach22i]

Found this..............most of it is work safe, most of it.

Edited: if it's not work safe, then it's also not Pelican safe. -Z-man.

Here is a list with samples of their other artist....nice work.

http://www.pspgroups.com/artists.htm

[techweenie]

I have a pretty substantial art collection, and a catholic taste in representations of the female form. I own a Vargas. I have a signed book of Olivia. I have a vintage '47 pinup calendar, contemporary Bettie Page art, and lots of nude photography.

If I had to get rid of one style of pinup, it would be the contemporary stuff. Vargas-era is more subtle and artistic. IMHO, Olivia paints with real love for her subjects, but she has a faddish edge to her work.

[dd74]

Vargas is very nice, but how much story does he tell with one image? And the image needs to be more suggestive (albeit "cleaner") than what is seen with contemporary pinups.

When I worked on Superman and Batman, we were always up against this. Lois' skirt height in Superman was a continual battle. Even Lois' first dialogue when she sees Superman on film - "Nice 'S'," meaning the S on his chest, had BS&P (Broadcast, Standards and Practices), spinning.

We need to be careful. Pinup girls in and of themselves, have a naughty connotation to them.

In the meantime, my thoughts here are to not as much throw any cute face with a nice figure up on a canvas, but have something happening to her other than striking a pose.

[WolfeMacleod]

You guys are forgetting the very, very best of all.
Boris Vallejo.

Although he may not qualify as "Pin Up"

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by dd74
We need to be careful. Pinup girls in and of themselves, have a naughty connotation to them.

We know, thats why we like them!

Any more silly statements? Get working on something, lets make this work!

JoeA

[David McLaughlin]

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most...
If I remember correctly, the Army Navy Stores in Mystic CT were selling some replica airplane panels painted with pin ups. These looked just like they were cut off a WWII bomber complete with bullet holes. These would looks nice on display.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
We know, thats why we like them!

Any more silly statements? Get working on something, lets make this work!

JoeA

YEOW! Agreeing with JoeA twice in one week... scary.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by David McLaughlin
If I remember correctly, the Army Navy Stores in Mystic CT were selling some replica airplane panels painted with pin ups. These looked just like they were cut off a WWII bomber complete with bullet holes. These would looks nice on display.

Have seen several aircraft places selling things like this. Its not difficult to re-create and I know someone who could do it if anyone is really hurting for something like this.

JoeA

[Moses]

Originally posted by dd74
... the image needs to be more suggestive (albeit "cleaner") than what is seen with contemporary pinups.

We need to be careful. Pinup girls in and of themselves, have a naughty connotation to them.

Tough standards. Here's what's left;

[Joeaksa]

Moses,

This is not Victorian England! (Thank God!) That hurts this early in the morning... Need to go to page one to recailbrate my eyes!

JoeA

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by dd74

Ok, feel much better now... Now if I could just figure out how to make the cute redhead smile!