So which came first?

http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/gallery/p...18-2589979.jpg

And what is this? Some sort of Caddy show car I presume.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132530399.jpg

tech,

That looks like a late '30's Peugeot 402 roadster. There was a very similar silver blue one at Pebble last year.

(Any Le Mans history with that yellow one?)


Tim

The red one is a TBird prototype/show car. THe other one is a Darlmat (spelling) Peugeot (I think!)

Thunderbird by Pinifarina
;)

yep! 1938 Peugeot 402 Darl`Mat roadster was one of 12 built to commemorate Peugeot`s successful run in the 1938 24 hours of Le Mans.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132599912.jpg

Its not a Thunderbird, nor related to it....:cool:

Tim

So that's a Caddy El Camino coupe by Pinifarina

I'm going to say it's another version of the Cadillac Cyclone prototype. Circa 1958.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2357-2.jpg

Not a Ranchero, either...
 

Not a Cadillac, El Camino or otherwise.

Another angle:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132629985.jpg



Tim

It's a Thunderbird concept car of some sort, you can almost make out the emblem on the back. It's not whacky enough to be a Bertone, but it's definately italian.

By the grill I was thinking Desoto, but couldn't find it. I've been a car nut all my life. You guys make me look like a novice at best. I have no idea what some of these are.

You're the winner, Bob.

Its a 1954 DeSoto Ghia Adventurer II. One of the Motorama cars after Virgil Exner arrived at Chrysler. Longtime ownership by the Sultan of Morocco before returning to the US.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132672998.jpg

Trunk detail could be mistaken from a distance as either a TBird or Cadillac chevron, but is actually a stylized "V8":

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132673085.jpg


My favorite was the Nardi wheel with Hernando in the center. Turin meets Detroit, or Madrid, at least...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132673789.jpg


Next photo's yours, Bob.

Tim

beautiful, I thought TBird due to the rear lights. Got me on that one...

How did you find it? I googled Ghia, concept, Chrysler yada and couldn't find squat. Let's do cars that made it into production. These one or two off's are tough on an old guy.

this is a De Soto Adv II 1953
http://www.vintageweb.net/ccpa/prototyp/53desoad.jpg

A really easy one...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads6/21132688072.jpg

Easy...... it's a suppository.

Red one is a late 50's Alfa? Giulia?

If not, some other Pinin design....

No is not an Alfa or a Pinifarina design

Borgward? (Isabella?)

no not a Borgward.

an other pic.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132703645.jpg

I didn't. It was just a guess. The grill tipped me off. Even at that I could only guess the manufacturer, not the model or year. I was sure it was a caddy at first. It's a lot like the cyclone concept car of the same era.

Here's a limited production car. I believe my favorite car, the 550/575 Maranello may have had it's roots in this design. Hint-It's not a Ferrari.

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7760/carpic13mz.jpg" border="0" width="480" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

Peugeot? for YB's
Apollo? for Sebring

Aye Carumba Howard! Fast! Yes-the Intermeccanica Apollo from 64/65.

You're up.

Anzures,
I'm thinking its a late 50's Lancia Appia coupe.
Les

no it's not a Peugot or Lancia...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132768980.jpg

C'mon guys, look at the wheels! And does the roofline look familiar?

OMG, it's that goofy Porsche!

We have a winner!!!!
1959 VW Porsche Beutler Coupé
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771440.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771480.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771505.jpg
the cab:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771538.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771554.jpg

Type 1600

Année de construction 1959

Châssis Volkswagen (D)

Carrosserie Carrosserie Ernst et Fritz , Thoune

Moteur Porsche 4 cylindres 1600 cm3

Puissance 90 ch

Vitesse maximum 150 km/h

side view:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132771922.jpg

Thank you for contributing to my education. I had never heard of that one before. A Porsche that looks like everyone else's small coupe? The last image shows different bodywork: rear fender'hump' after the door and a crease in the front fender. Different year? Prototype? Karmann version?
Les

A nice little targa...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132774117.jpg

Seems to me that I also read about another company that went as far as to use a 356 shell, as a base for a limited production front-engined sports car. Anyone remember that? I think it was in Sports Car International a few years ago.

Laudari 356 Porsche
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132775334.jpg

Is that front-engined? Looks like the grill is blocked off, and it also has Porsche wheels. Maybe it is... I can barely remember.

Good looking car though

The little targa is a Toyota. Model S800 I believe?

Winner. Next one won't be as easy :)

ur up!

Okay, here's an odd looking one, from way out in left field.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132801566.jpg

Dave,
Either a Ginetta G4 or the Dare version of the same car.
Les

LaDawry