anyone else find this scary?

[MRM]

Mostly yours, Snipe. Good night.

[Tervuren]

Considering the Koran has been read in the whitehouse for more than one term - this doesn't surprise me. (And I realy realy wonder when Bush says "god bless" - Who?)

[Moses]

Originally posted by nostatic
ok, here's my take. I think one should judge someone by their actions, not their religion.

Are you as generous in your assesment of the Church of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan? You judge only the actions of individual members and not the philosophy of the group they represent?

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by MRM
I don't know whether to defend him from some of the more insane things said here or explain to you why he really is a poor choice for Congress. Suffice it to say that most of you have completely missed the point. If you want to know real and legitimate reasons to object to Keith, do a quick Google search on him and look at who he's represented over the years and see some of the quotes he's said.

On the up side, he is mostly harmless. He will revel in the attention the race and religion baiters give him, and enjoy the prestige and status it gives him. He will rack up a voting record that would have made Paul Wellstone proud and he will likely not accomplish much in the way of legislation. It embarasses me when members of my party insist on acting like complete asses when they could level constructive and devestating criticism of people like Keith.

You may be mostly harmless but I find your comments extremely disturbing. We are to assume that you are still in the legal community and have known this individual for some time? Now you are saying that "he is harmless" yet seem to have no problem in allowing him to attempt to change the way things have been done in this country for over 200 years as a publicity stunt?

As M21 said before, we have many Jewish politicians who have been elected and none of them want to use a Jewish instrument in their election, yet now our latest Muslim grandstander wants to use the Koran and all you can say is that he is a "poor choice for Congress?"

Its 'harmless stunts" like this that have been adopted in this damm politically correct country as of late that may very well be our downfall. They are far from harmless IMHO and I am by far not alone. Suggest at some point you sit back and think about it and hopefully after some reflection you might find that stunts like this need to be stopped immediately.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by MRM
Mostly yours, Snipe. Good night.

Know who else would've been highly offended by my comments?

Nick Berg.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally posted by mikester
I find it scary that an elected official to our government could care one way or the other what someone's religion is.

Last I heard we had freedom of religion and could be any one we choose.

I'm against illegal immgration myself but not against muslims.

I'm also against people who kill other people but I'm still not against muslims.

I'm not against a muslim using a Quran instead of a bible at his swearing in ceremony. After all what difference does it make what he swears on? They guy's a politician - he's probably lying anyway.

I am FOR people being free to worship as they please. I read that a student asked the guy why he didn't have a Quran in his office...he had some hard-line anti muslim answer where the real answer is probably more like the fact that he's not a muslim so why would he? Duh.

Stupid kills but not nearly enough.

+1,000

FWIW I'll vote for my congressperson, mayor, governor, president, dog catcher, judge and whomever else based on their qualifications for the job - not on their religious beliefs.

The only exception to that might be that I might NOT vote for someone if I think their religious beliefs are going to factor into or influence their political decision-making unduly (such as might be the case with a RADICAL muslim, a RADICAL christian, a RADICAL jew or a rabid atheist).

People should be able to more-or-less keep their religious beliefs to themselves and allow whatever they believe in to quietly direct their lives and guide their actions. The ones that feel the need to constantly yap about it and how "God speaks to me" or whatever have no business in leadership positions - in fact they probably belong in mental institutions more often than not. If they want to let their spirituality help guide their decisions, fine. If they want to constantly default to the "guidance" of one particular radical element and try to impose it on the rest of us as law, hit the road, Jack.

The biggest enemy to our type of government is those who would seek to radicalize our government or make it more theocratic. Spirituality and the peace it can give one is a wonderful thing - institutionalized religion is generally a bad thing. When institutionalized religious beliefs are mixed with government, the results are ALWAYS bad - history supports this without any doubt. Fortunately our founding fathers saw this potential problem and built in checks against that into our governement (insert discussion about the Doctrine of Separation of Church and State or elected representation here). Usually here in the USA it's the radical xian whack-jobs that are the enemy, but I don't care if it's a radical xian, muslim, jew or whatever - it's got no business in politics which is supposed to be about PUBLIC service, not service to whatever dogma you happen to embrace. Being part of a particular faith is fine, being RADICAL to the point where you allow it to supercede your judgement and the basic premise of the job you're selected to do (public service, listening to your constituency) is not.

While most muslims probably abhor violence, I still think the notion of calling Islam the "religion of peace" is a crock of schit. Same for Christianity. Same for Judeasm. They all have radical nut jobs that pervert the central message and they all have skeletons in their closet. But to simply think that saying "that's not us" is good enough is a joke. Start cracking down on these militants openly. Have the mullahs take a UNITED stance against this kind of crap. Have their peers start standing up against these assclowns instead of passively sitting by, letting themselves be intimidated. Then maybe we'll start believing in your "religion of peace" schit.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by m21sniper
[B]Interestingly enough, Jesus was not a pedophile...

Jesus didn't hook up with anyone. Apparently he was asexual or something...

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by m21sniper
[B]

Yes, Madrassas are well known for their world class curriculum's. In these 'schools' Jews are absolutely demonized, and extremely orthodox versions of Islam are taught to students from the time they can speak. That's what all the documentaries i've seen say.

In some areas, yes. Did your documentary say that's the case with all schools, or even most schooles, the case of 1.3 billion muslims, where 80% are not arab? (Answer.,...NO. You're cherry-picking. You have absolutely no concept of perspective but that would defy your your Chicken Little drama act)

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by m21sniper
Has there ever been a Jewish pol who's insisted on swearing in on a Torah?

Good point, or maybe an atheist politician should use Darwin's "origin of species".

[rcecale]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Yes. I am right about knowing what I think. I know what I think more than you know what I think. Conversely, you know what you think more than I know what you think. Scott knows what he thinks more than I know what he thinks. Kyle knows what he thinks more than you know what he thinks. This is hilarious. Your comprehension is so bad you don't even know why I said your comprehension is bad.

Actually, that's you. Your comprehension is so bad and your train of thought is so poor, you don't even remember what was initially discussed when I said your comprehension was poor. Like I said, talking to you is like the special olympics.

LOL

And here you have it ladies and gentlemen...the world famous CC debating tactic known as the "I know you are, but what am I?" attack.

oh.....almost forgot...LOL!

Randy

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by rcecale
And here you have it ladies and gentlemen...the world famous CC debating tactic known as the "I know you are, but what am I?" attack.

oh.....almost forgot...LOL!

Randy

WTF are you talking about? He was saying I was thinking something I wasn't thinking, hence my comment about his reading comprehension.

Try to keep up, ok?

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[rcecale]

Light years ahead of you. But you couldn't begin to comprehend.

Randy

[dd74]

I think all this is beyond reasonable thought. Don't you think?

[scottmandue]

Why even I don't know what I am thinking... I keep myself in a constant state of befuddlement to keep the aliens from reading my brianwaves.

dd, I think reasonable thought was abandoned several paged ago.

"I came here for an argument"
"No you didn't"

[dd74]

Originally posted by scottmandue

dd, I think reasonable thought was abandoned several paged ago.

I thought so. But then I realized it was just brain gas.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by scottmandue
Why even I don't know what I am thinking... I keep myself in a constant state of befuddlement to keep the aliens from reading my brianwaves.

dd, I think reasonable thought was abandoned several paged ago.

"I came here for an argument"
"No you didn't"

Scottmandue, kiss my ass.

You're better than them....WTF are you doing?

[sammyg2]

I find it scary that others (libs) find it scary. Denial.

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Scottmandue, kiss my ass.

You're better than them....WTF are you doing?

Dammit CC if I don't know what I am thinking how am I supposed to know what I am doing I would therefor have to think about what I was doing and I have predisposed myself to not thinking... I think.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by sammyg2
I find it scary that others (libs) find it scary. Denial.

how about if we start persecuting Christians? You know those LDS are dangerous...

I still maintain that this country is founded on judging people on their actions, not their beliefs (or is supposed to be). If someone wants to be in the Church of Satanic Porn Monkeys, that is fine as long as their actions are legal under our statutes.

mmm, satanic porn monkeys...

Denial is found in those that don't see the erosion of personal freedoms in this country, and a reactionary swing towards a Christiano-fascist state.

ymmv and probably does...

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by scottmandue
Dammit CC if I don't know what I am thinking how am I supposed to know what I am doing I would therefor have to think about what I was doing and I have predisposed myself to not thinking... I think.

Sounds like a personal problem to me, Scott. Can't help you there....

LOL

Sidenote, that is one very cute bunny ya got there....