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nameisbauer 09-02-2008 09:07 AM

I have a lipstick/helmet cam that hooks into a camera and another helmet cam that records onto flash.

I've haven't used the flash one yet, but seems cool cause it has no wires. I would be happy to loan them out.

Radu still has my "mount" for the harness bar.haha.

gostraight 09-02-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nameisbauer (Post 4154587)
I have a lipstick/helmet cam that hooks into a camera and another helmet cam that records onto flash.

I've haven't used the flash one yet, but seems cool cause it has no wires. I would be happy to loan them out.

Radu still has my "mount" for the harness bar.haha.

oh...you mean that "mount"SmileWavy

slodave 09-02-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4154572)
Dave, is there a link you can post for these vids? Our system at work won't allow them to run the way you have them posted (embedded?), and we're on dialup at home.

You can check out http://www.youtube.com/slodave1.

Heel n Toe 09-02-2008 12:16 PM

Thanks, Dave. :)

flatspot 09-02-2008 05:51 PM

Hi All,
Sorry I missed the start up. would've loved to have been there. Whats\'s this I hear about a BBQ? I'm in, just say when and where and i'll bring my weenies;>)
Derrek, it's good to be back. BTW, I've got a new ride. If anyone see's an all white mustang gt
flying across the hill getting it all wrong in (insert favorite corner), thats just me trying to re-learn how to heal/toe after too many years of driving automatics.
Hey Chris, what happened to the whale tail? Also, good to read that you're finally putting seatbelts in that monster. Only took you what, 30 or so years? ;>)
Hope too see ya'll soon. Kiley

lfot 09-02-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4155690)
Derrek, it's good to be back. BTW, I've got a new ride. If anyone see's an all white mustang gt flying across the hill getting it all wrong in (insert favorite corner), thats just me trying to re-learn how to heal/toe after too many years of driving automatics.
Kiley

Wha wha wha wha what?! A Mustang GT? What year? Any pics?

flatspot 09-02-2008 07:22 PM

Derek, white 98 GT 4.6. Hochkiss suspesion, camber/caster plates. needs work on headlights
for night driving. currently no hi beams and the lows currently aim @ the front bumper. (doo!)
Other than that all it needs is a matching set of tires. It has nice tires on it but unfortunatly
each corner has a different brand. Michelen, general, dunlop, and pirelli respectively.
Makes for some ahem, interesting handling caracteristics ;>) sorry no pics but you'll see it
in person soon enough. Kiley

flatspot 09-02-2008 07:29 PM

D-mull,
Dude, if you're still reading this thread, was your GTI black by any chance?
I was reading back though the older posts trying to catch up and I noticed your post on page 184. I ran the hill around the same time as you did and would sometimes run against a guy in a black 1st gen GTI who used to like to lift his inside rear tire going through sweeper.
Back then I ran a red 75 pinto and a blue 240z. Kiley

Heel n Toe 09-02-2008 08:28 PM

GTIs don't necessarily "like" to lift the inside rear... neither do Minis.

It's just something they do.

LOL

dmull 09-02-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by flatspot (Post 4155927)
D-mull,
Dude, if you're still reading this thread, was your GTI black by any chance?
I was reading back though the older posts trying to catch up and I noticed your post on page 184. I ran the hill around the same time as you did and would sometimes run against a guy in a black 1st gen GTI who used to like to lift his inside rear tire going through sweeper.
Back then I ran a red 75 pinto and a blue 240z. Kiley


Yes, I am still silently following this thread religiously. As a matter of fact, I did run an 85 or 86 black gti, as well as a white 86 too (not all at same time) around the mid to late 80's, but I think these were considered 2nd gen GTI's. Yes they did like to lift their rear inside wheels when run hard through turns (especially if they had all the bilstein and neuspeed goodies). Fun times. I don't remember a red pinto but do remember a 240z with roll bar/cage in it...it may have even been right hand drive, but can't be sure. In any case, I've run alot of different cars up there through the years and like to go up there sometimes just for fun, although not any late night, all out mully-runs anymore. Back then we were dare devils on a suicide mission who used every inch of road, using the opposite lane around blind turns to apex, relying only on whether I saw headlights from the other direction lighting up the guardrails or street to alert me that a car was on-coming. Amazing I never crashed up there. The unbelievable stupidity and giant sized balls of kids! Luckily I never crashed up there, and nobody I know was ever hurt up there from racing, although ironically we have all been in some serious accidents on the streets while driving like normal citizens...how do you explain that???

Banning 09-03-2008 06:53 AM

Mulholland Highway
 
Sooner or later they will really crack down. (see youtube link about Mulholland Hwy below)

Although this video is about Mulholland Hwy, it applies to Mulholland Drive as well.

Los Angeles is now too crowded. I have noticed drivers doing 3 point turns in the middle of the Identicals and in the middle of European Straight. There are some really stupid drivers out there. Don't they know how dumb they are? I guess not.

If you have an accident with one of those stupid drivers and it was determined that you were speeding or racing, it's bye bye time for you and your car.

Be careful! Racing in the daytime is now unsafe. Too many drivers without common sense makes for a deadly combination.
Later at night when the road is clear and headlights are visible is the safest time to go out. Always try to pre-run at lower speeds to check for hazards before blazing.


In 1973 when I began to race Mulholland with a fever, early on it seemed smart to keep a low profile. Hence the reason I later drove without plates for awhile, kept the Carrera in the Living Room for some time, and never drove with any schedule or on any particular evening. Randomness and infrequency seemed important. I learned this from Charley and it worked. (Thanks Charley, rip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_ixSHf9x4&feature=related

Heel n Toe 09-03-2008 07:57 AM

Chris, I'm sure one of the reasons you and the Hill Killer are still with us is because you were smart enough to go for the low profile, late-at-night, random-and-infrequent approach.

I was thinking about this the other night and a question occurred to me; when you think back on all your runs, were the solo runs... where it was just you against the hill and the laws of physics without the distraction of running against another driver... your favorite runs, or were the mano-a-mano runs the ones you think of when you want to remember the best memories?

This question is for anyone else as well.

Jeff Hail 09-03-2008 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banning (Post 4156654)
Sooner or later they will really crack down. (see youtube link about Mulholland Hwy below)

Although this video is about Mulholland Hwy, it applies to Mulholland Drive as well.

Los Angeles is now too crowded. I have noticed drivers doing 3 point turns in the middle of the Identicals and in the middle of European Straight. There are some really stupid drivers out there. Don't they know how dumb they are? I guess not.

If you have an accident with one of those stupid drivers and it was determined that you were speeding or racing, it's bye bye time for you and your car.

Be careful! Racing in the daytime is now unsafe. Too many drivers without common sense makes for a deadly combination.
Later at night when the road is clear and headlights are visible is the safest time to go out. Always try to pre-run at lower speeds to check for hazards before blazing.


In 1973 when I began to race Mulholland with a fever, early on it seemed smart to keep a low profile. Hence the reason I later drove without plates for awhile, kept the Carrera in the Living Room for some time, and never drove with any schedule or on any particular evening. Randomness and infrequency seemed important. I learned this from Charley and it worked. (Thanks Charley, rip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_ixSHf9x4&feature=related


I agree. It's a different time now. Overgrowth limits field vision. So many more vehicles that can come out of knowhere now.
I was passing through yesterday and in four places was road work in process. Sweeper, European Straight, Sideways and the "S's".

I took this photo some time back but seems the road is in such bad shape now a lot of patching going on all over.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220461126.jpg

Pre-runs in the past were required and just good practice. Mul has always been an obstacal course of sorts. (water, debris, other cars) Never know whats going to be laying or standing in the road. I am sure many a driver came across deer or worse from time to time and that can be scary at speed.

Late 80's -90's was probably the time when most of the lone wolves and ghost's were out. Be heard but not seen and never park. Get in and get out.

Jeff Hail 09-03-2008 09:07 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220461611.jpg

Banning 09-03-2008 10:33 AM

Remembering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4156803)
Chris, I'm sure one of the reasons you and the Hill Killer are still with us is because you were smart enough to go for the low profile, late-at-night, random-and-infrequent approach.

I was thinking about this the other night and a question occurred to me; when you think back on all your runs, were the solo runs... where it was just you against the hill and the laws of physics without the distraction of running against another driver... your favorite runs, or were the mano-a-mano runs the ones you think of when you want to remember the best memories?

This question is for anyone else as well.

That's a very good question!

I have spent many nights driving on Mulholland in lots of different kinds of cars from 1972 until present. This is just out of plain necessity since I have to use Mulholland to leave home and to come home.

However in the good 'ol days..every time that I used Mul it was flat-out no matter what was under the pedal. It was this way with my best friend John Hall too. We were always practicing, night or day.

It seems that the runs that one does alone may be lots of fun, exhilerating, and worth remembering, however it is the runs against others that are unforgetable.

Whether you may want to remember the solo runs as your favorite runs or not is irrellevant it seems; we are "forced" to remember the most challenging, scary, and demanding runs. Those are the ones where the most chances are taken, against a competitor; the one's where you "Take it to the Limit", at eleven-tenths.

As long as you live thru it, those runs are the most lasting, memorable and fun memories I believe.

There is an exception...and that is the solo runs where you go off alone and eat it, either by crashing into another car, barrier, or by going off of the cliff.
I've experienced all three of those things and they are very important memories because of the lessons that they have taught. Not fun, but important.
We learn by making mistakes or if we are lucky, by watching others make mistakes.

Jeremy Cottrell 09-03-2008 05:05 PM

Awesome Chris. Too bad I was out of town for the startup. When is the maiden voyage?? I see you have a couple autocrossers in your midst. There is a great event at El Toro in a few weeks. You would have plenty of friends out there for moral support. Myself included.

Banning 09-04-2008 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Cottrell (Post 4158080)
Awesome Chris. Too bad I was out of town for the startup. When is the maiden voyage?? I see you have a couple autocrossers in your midst. There is a great event at El Toro in a few weeks. You would have plenty of friends out there for moral support. Myself included.

Thanks very much Jeremy. I have a few details left. I am going to call Robert Fairchild Industries this morning to ask a couple of questions about the MFI system. They repaired the pump for me and did the original modification to 2.8 RSR specs long ago.

I have two leaking injectors and the idle is somewhat low. It also backfires thru the exhaust which might be caused by the leaking injectors. I have a small oil leak at the bottom strainer probably caused by a warped bottom plate.

The car now needs to be started on a very regular basis to keep the fuel clean and the MFI system free of laquer. Today is going to be a very hot day here in L.A. so I may wait until Friday or Saturday to run it again as long as the injectors are not leaking. I should be able to run the car for as long as I want with no fuel leaks present.

I still need seat belts and thank you Jeremy for showing me the seat belts at TRE, I may opt for those belts after all. Same ones that Radu uses on his Racecar I believe.

When it comes to tires, there are several good choices. After researching the tires available it comes down to these:
BFGoodrich makes nice racing slicks
Kumho makes a great racing slick
Nitto makes an interesting racing tire with slight tread
Yokohama has a nice racing tire with light tread

However I will attempt to get GoodYear racing tires similar to the ones that are on the car now. Either at Good Year racing or Rodger Kraus Racing Tires that has vintage sizes. I have 15 x 9 in wheels in front and 15 x 11 in the back.

More to come...

Heel n Toe 09-04-2008 07:22 AM

How are the shocks, Chris?

Banning 09-04-2008 10:38 AM

Shocks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4159284)
How are the shocks, Chris?


:D I laughed hard at that one, thanks John. :D

Derek and I will find out soon, right Derek? ;)

The bumps now present in The Esses and in European Straight will be an immediate tell-tale for the condition of the shocks.

Right now as the car sits, if you push very hard on the front or the rear bumper, the car will move about 1.5 inches downward with heavy resistance before it rebounds with the same resistance upward. It's very impressive.

All the shocks are Koni Double-Adjustable Racing Shocks. Adjustments for both "rebound" and "bump" can be done without removal or collapse by the use of outside dials.

Heel n Toe 09-04-2008 10:59 AM

I'm glad it provided a laugh, but I wasn't trying to be funny... maybe there's something I haven't read (or forgot) that makes it funny.

Is it because of the current condition of the surface on Mulholland?

Sounds like you're set with those Konis, though. I was just wondering because it had been so long.


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