"Boy Bags Wild Hog Bigger Than 'Hogzilla'"

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
One cannot, by definition, "murder" an animal. Kill, yes, but not "murder". Typical emotional leftist tripe. Killing for food, that we may eat meat, is as old as mankind. Man cannot lead a healthy life without meat and the fat is contains.

that's just your opinion. Vegans and vegetarians are actually much healthier people than those that eat meat. There is plenty of protein in natural food such as nuts, etc...murder is murder, my friend. whether you kill your neighbors dog, their cat, or a pig in the woods...

furthermore, the kind of "fat" that is good for you , unlike saturated and trans fat, does not come from animal meat.

[BertBeagle]

Originally posted by on-ramp
that's just your opinion. Vegans and vegetarians are actually much healthier people than those that eat meat. There is plenty of protein in natural food such as nuts, etc...murder is murder, my friend. whether you kill your neighbors dog, their cat, or a pig in the woods...

Then I guess steeping on a spider or bug is murder also.

[Super_Dave_D]

I think its real

Check out the website that his father has. He aslo posts the good and bad emails they have been getting. Check out the bad ones - its amazing what people will say. 4 good points here - Number one being the most important - This is a big problem in Georgia. One thing I would like to add is that I have hunted these animals for food and notice in my earlier post, I had a very large male come up on me and I let him go. The 50-75-100lb females are the ones your after.

http://www.monsterpig.com/

That said, four points for the negative posters to consider:

1) Ferral hogs are NOT indigenous to the U.S. They wreck havoc on indigenous eco-systems, destroying wildlife habitat for native species. Left unchecked these non-indigenous, "invasive" hogs dessimate our already-fragile, stressed eco-systems, and local wildlife suffer. Guess we should not try to contain, for example, the non-indigenouse snake fish from invading our native waters too.

2) Again, the whole thrill of hunting, I don't get. However, which would prefer? The life an animal living in the wild, having a reasonable existence, that is felled quickly and then processed and eaten, OR the life of an animal (cattle, chicken, domestic hog) that is "factory farmed" in the most appalling conditions to then be killed in terrifying, loud slaughter houses, and end up in those nice little packages at the grocery store?

3) These guys did process the hog for FOOD. For millenia, man has hunted for meat. (Vegetarianism is very recent in the grand scheme of time.)

4) To the ranter about the Ten Commandments and "Thou Shalt not Kill"--try taking a look at all the biblical text in those early books of the Old Testement. God commands that man sacrifice animals to him. If you are going to quote the Bible, at least manage to not take one verse/line out of context and ignore the pervasive animal sacrifice throughout the Bible.

[JeremyD]

Feral pigs are bad news - bad news for kids and dogs in the woods - they get agressive and will kill anything in their way. They are also bad if you hit one in your car. Think the weight of a deer in a lower, more compact form.

[HardDrive]

Still haven't manage to resolve your feeling about how you brutally tortured those animals to death in Boston, have you on-ramp?

I shot a deer last year. It was over my shoulder, and I had a very difficult time getting the rifle around silently. In the last moment, I swung around quickly. The deer turned to look at me, but by then, it was too late. I shot it right thought the heart. It fell dead instantly. I shot again to ensure it was dead, then climbed out of my blind. Within 20 seconds, I was standing over the deer.

I looked down into the huge dark eye of the deer, wondering if it was still concious, looking up at me, the last thing it would see. The import of what I had just done, was, and never is lost on me. Killing it killing. Its as natural as rain. But in some minor way, you have changed the direction of all life in an instant.

Every edible scrap of the deer was eatten. Its horns hang above my 911 in the garage. And I sleep like a baby.

How about you on-ramp. Are you comfortable with what you have done to animals? If the answer is no, then be clear, that it is YOUR problem. Not the rest of the world.

[competentone]

Originally posted by BertBeagle
We had a picture of it in our paper today also.

I'll go out on the limb and still say it is a fake.

It's a big pig, but not nearly as big as the "trick" photography they're using to make it look larger than it actually is.

For those who are opposed to killing wild hogs; if ever there was an animal the deserved to be hunted to extinction, it would be the wild hog!

[IROC]

It appears this thing was killed relatively closely (within a few miles) to where we hold a lot of track events (TGPR). Kinda scary.

[BertBeagle]

Originally posted by competentone
It's a big pig, but not nearly as big as the "trick" photography they're using to make it look larger than it actually is.

For those who are opposed to killing wild hogs; if ever there was an animal the deserved to be hunted to extinction, it would be the wild hog!

I'll buy that the kid shot a large pig. But that picture must be the result of some trick photo shop work. The picture makes the pig look the size of a small rhino and they don't get that big even as domestic hogs. They are trying to profit from this in any way they can. Late night tv appearances, NASCAR pre race ceremonies, state fair appearances and t shirts in every store in Ga. They are probably hoping to at least get a new bass boat and pick up truck out of this.

[Tobra]

the hogzilla deal was as much BS as this is

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by HardDrive
I looked down into the huge dark eye of the deer, wondering if it was still concious, looking up at me, the last thing it would see. The import of what I had just done, was, and never is lost on me. Killing it killing. Its as natural as rain. But in some minor way, you have changed the direction of all life in an instant.

I don't think non-hunters can fully grasp the emotions that any real hunter experiences at that moment. I have killed more animals than I can even remember; every one of them has been used in its entirety. Every one of them has also evoked a full range of emotion; from the elation of having been succesful to the remorse of having killed.

This probably doesn't sound very manly, but I have sat in the silent woods, on the silent ridgetops, crying over, appologizing to, and thanking the animal that will now feed my family. I've stroked their fur, admiring their beauty, all the while wondering why things have to be this way. But they do; this is the world in which we live. I acknowledge that. Others seem to want to deny that, either by buying their meat in a supermarket or avoiding meat entirely. They delude themselves.

[Dueller]

Obviously they shot the pic with the kid further in the background to make it appear bigger. Here's a pic from their website that puts it a bit more in perspective.

[Don Plumley]

That's a big kid...

[alf]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
This probably doesn't sound very manly, but I have sat in the silent woods, on the silent ridgetops, crying over, appologizing to, and thanking the animal that will now feed my family. I've stroked their fur, admiring their beauty, all the while wondering why things have to be this way. But they do; this is the world in which we live. I acknowledge that. Others seem to want to deny that, either by buying their meat in a supermarket or avoiding meat entirely. They delude themselves.

That is one big hog. If any locals Hog Hunt, ring me up for your next hunt.

My brother is vegan, my sister picean-vege, my mom owns a couple of vegan resaturants. They are all healthy, non-delusional and do not mind if anyone else chooses to eat meat, their SOs all do. They simply made a decision to not eat meat themselves. It takes a lot of self-dicipline to be veg*an.

[URY914]

Nice family picture.

[David]

Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa:No!
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal!
Homer: Heh heh heh... ooh... yeah... right, Lisa. A wonderful...magical animal.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by on-ramp
it's murder. That boy belongs behind bars.. the media is treating him like a hero. just let the poor animal live, for God's sake, why chase it and kill it ?

You are a vegan and do not have any leather belts or shoes then?

Jeez when are you going to "cowboy up" and grow a backbone? People in this country still kill animals and eat them, no matter what you think or not. They are going to eat it, just like the bacon and ham that you are eating every week.

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
They are going to eat it, just like the bacon and ham that you are eating every week.

+1
I'll go a step further. That wild boar was a lot luckier than the pigs that give us average folks our bacon & ham. I've seen pictures from inside the industrial pig farms in Quebec. That wild boar had a far better existance, even if it's last 30 minutes were awful.

I have a lot more respect for people who hunt for their meat than the people who get their packaged meat at the supermarket but are squeamish about killing animals. I'm a hyporite that way... there is no way I could kill a pig, nomatter how delicious they are. But if YOU kill it for me, I'll buy the bacon.

Originally posted by alf
My brother is vegan, my sister picean-vege, my mom owns a couple of vegan resaturants. They are all healthy, non-delusional and do not mind if anyone else chooses to eat meat, their SOs all do. They simply made a decision to not eat meat themselves. It takes a lot of self-dicipline to be veg*an.

Agreed. Being vegan takes a LOT of effort, I couldn't do it. My wife is a vegetarian, but she is an easygoing type. She loves the smell of BBQ burgers, but won't eat them. Buys meat for me, but I have to cook it.

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by Super_Dave_D

That said, four points for the negative posters to consider:

1) Ferral hogs are NOT indigenous to the U.S. They wreck havoc on indigenous eco-systems, destroying wildlife habitat for native species. Left unchecked these non-indigenous, "invasive" hogs dessimate our already-fragile, stressed eco-systems, and local wildlife suffer. Guess we should not try to contain, for example, the non-indigenouse snake fish from invading our native waters too.

2) Again, the whole thrill of hunting, I don't get. However, which would prefer? The life an animal living in the wild, having a reasonable existence, that is felled quickly and then processed and eaten, OR the life of an animal (cattle, chicken, domestic hog) that is "factory farmed" in the most appalling conditions to then be killed in terrifying, loud slaughter houses, and end up in those nice little packages at the grocery store?

3) These guys did process the hog for FOOD. For millenia, man has hunted for meat. (Vegetarianism is very recent in the grand scheme of time.)

4) To the ranter about the Ten Commandments and "Thou Shalt not Kill"--try taking a look at all the biblical text in those early books of the Old Testement. God commands that man sacrifice animals to him. If you are going to quote the Bible, at least manage to not take one verse/line out of context and ignore the pervasive animal sacrifice throughout the Bible.

I agree 1000%... I don't see how killing an animal in the forest is any worse that the thousands of animals we kill everyday in farm factories to feed ourselfs.

I don't hunt and most likely never will... I find the post by you people that do hunt very thoughtfull, gives me an insight to an experience I probably will never have.
Thank you!

AFAIK Buddha was a vegetarian and taught that lifestyle so it has been around a while although he lived somewhere around 500 BC and humankind had already been around and hunting for thousands of years before him.

[Taz's Master]

Anything raised on a modern farm destroys animals. Carrots or cows doesn't matter, the reliance on the chemical and petroleum industries and the modern farming techniques kills insects, mammal and bird pests and harmless bird, reptile, amphibian and mammal species with pesticides, fertilizers, tilling/planting/harvesting techinques, and transportation and all the supporting industries. Eating a deer harvested locally does far less damage to living things for the food provided than vegatables purchased at the grocery store. If you are eating vegetarian or living a vegan lifestyle for health reasons (I disagree with some of that reasoning, but I understand it), that is very defensible, but eating commercially grown vegatables to keep from harming animals only works if you refuse to be objective.

Nostatic, if you are reading this thread I reccomend the book Bloodties by Ted Kerasote. It could be good motivation to purchase another firearm and take up another shooting sport.

[Super_Dave_D]

I noticed Fox news picked it up today

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html