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How does this apply to saving the life of an aborted man or woman? Your life, liberty and freedom belongs to you up to, but not including the point when your freedoms and liberties interfere with or deny another's life, liberty or freedom.

Welcome to America Bub.

Cells and foetuses are not a person. Continuing to talk about "aborted people" will not change this.

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I've met a few people I wish could be aborted.
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Cells and foetuses are not a person. Continuing to talk about "aborted people" will not change this.
if you say it enough times, it becomes truth. Actually religions depend on this. So do politicians.
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I don't know. I've had very little contact with nuns since I was expelled from my convent school. I dare say they are still forcing their facile views and their priggish, repressed morality down the throats of innocent schoolgirls. I do know a Danish lesbian pastor and her lover who have a much better grasp of reality.
OK Fraulein Maria, I'm going to regret asking this. Nope on second thought I refuse to ask.

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Cells and foetuses are not a person. Continuing to talk about "aborted people" will not change this.

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if you say it enough times, it becomes truth. Actually religions depend on this. So do politicians.
Don't forget the defunct political party called Nazis.
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if you say it enough times, it becomes truth. Actually religions depend on this. So do politicians.
Religion is little more than a form of government. Societal governments have the military, laws and scare tactics to back them up.

Religion has God, laws and scare tactics to back it up.

Other than innate, evolutionary herding instinct, honest to God I don't know why people need religion.

I believe in God plenty, and point to the conscience as evidence. But religion? too much Man in it.

Jesus would be very sad at the state of Christianity today.
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if you say it enough times, it becomes truth. Actually religions depend on this. So do politicians.
Actually, both sides of the debate depend on the crux of that very point, and I have yet to hear a compelling rational why a healthy group of cells or a viable foetuses are not, or will not become, a person.

And I am not religious or a politician.
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Demonstrate that cells and foetuses are people. this means in a testable way, not opinion.

Mommy, where do babies come from?!?


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well we all better do what God wants..
?, am I allowed to pick which God..

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Hugh, if there were not another living creature inside that body no one would care and that's the argument. . .
So we're against killing tapeworms now?
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well we all better do what God wants..
?, am I allowed to pick which God..

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Nope, God chooses you or doesn't choose you. Go read the God thread.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:56 AM
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How about I just slam my ***** in a car door instead?
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Cells and foetuses are not a person. Continuing to talk about "aborted people" will not change this.

Ridiculous post alert!
If fertilized cells inside of a mother's womb ( where babies come from ) aren't a baby, then what are they?


Seriously, do you know anyone that didn't start life as cells?
Better yet, do you know anyone that isn't currently made of cells?


Aborting fertilized cells is killing a baby. Every time. Without exception.
Pretend, turn you head, invent a catch phrase, ignore reality if you must.
It's still the truth. You cannot change this.


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Nope, God chooses you or doesn't choose you. Go read the God thread.
Right.
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Ridiculous post alert!
If fertilized cells inside of a mother's womb ( where babies come from ) aren't a baby, then what are they?


. . . snip . . .
How about a zygote, embryo then fetus . . . the "baby" part come later.

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So the number of "natural" abortions far exceeds the numbers mentioned here. Who's holding God's feet to the fire?
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Checked with 'God' he was busy
I did ask about paying for my sins
no worries..somebody named Jesus took care of it.

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Nope, God chooses you or doesn't choose you. Go read the God thread.
Can you elaborate on this Doug.

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