Pic the Prez - whose it gonna be? - Page 2

Moses · 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo6bar

Wherez ron paul?

Interesting that he is left out. He has more votes than Guliani.
Of course he has no real chance to win, but he'll have my vote.

SLO-BOB · 01-27-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses

Interesting that he is left out. He has more votes than Guliani.
Of course he has no real chance to win, but he'll have my vote.

Again, I left him out because I didn't want this to be a voting poll - it's a guess the winner poll. I believe Paul would throw off the poll because he has such a passionate following that there could be "wishful thinking" votes for him. Like you said, he has no real chance to win. You could also say that Edwards is so far out he has no real chance also. I just wanted the Dem/Republican balance to be there.

I also wonder if real life could imitate my concerns here. will Paul run third party after he folds for the Republican spot? If so, I think it strengthens my prediction of an Obama win because Paul will steal Republican votes much the way Nader stole Democrat votes last time around.

Mule · 01-27-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic dB

It is a little scary that Hillary has the lead...if she wins the Dem nomination then
the Replicans surely will win the election, McCain whomever gets that nom.
Personally Id like to see a more closely contested Pres. election, therefore hopefully Hillary loses.

If osama wins, the dems loose too!

Moses · 01-27-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SLO-BOB

Again, I left him out because I didn't want this to be a voting poll - it's a guess the winner poll. I believe Paul would throw off the poll because he has such a passionate following that there could be "wishful thinking" votes for him. Like you said, he has no real chance to win. You could also say that Edwards is so far out he has no real chance also. I just wanted the Dem/Republican balance to be there.

I also wonder if real life could imitate my concerns here. will Paul run third party after he folds for the Republican spot? If so, I think it strengthens my prediction of an Obama win because Paul will steal Republican votes much the way Nader stole Democrat votes last time around.

At this point I think Obama will win even without an independent splitting the Republican vote. People who understand nothing about policy will vote for Obama because Hillary is so unpleasant.

Hillary cried WAY to early in the process. She should have reserved her Oprah moment for a more critical stage. If she gets tearful again, it will really hurt her chances.

By the way, Guiliani is not out of this. I expect him to score big in New York and California. He'll be in the thick of the race at the end.

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

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Originally Posted by Moses

Interesting that he is left out. He has more votes than Guliani.
Of course he has no real chance to win, but he'll have my vote.

+1

I expect Clinton to win, but am hoping for pretty much anyone else.

island911 · 01-27-2008, 07:46 AM

When voters have to get serious they will choose a good manager for the job. ...not a preacher, or a power-crazed Clinton; not a beat-up old war hero, or a yappy deconstructionist.

Guiliani or Romney

sketchers356 · 01-27-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses

Interesting that he is left out. He has more votes than Guliani.
Of course he has no real chance to win, but he'll have my vote.

+2

pwd72s · 01-27-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur

Obama will get one term as prez & then the voters will swing Repub again but with a milder choice than the current admin.

Just my interested outsider point of view, so no hate or venom, please.

Ian

A very realistic and possible scenario, if you ask me...no venom here...

SLO-BOB · 01-28-2008, 05:09 AM

Ted Kennedy threw his support behind Obama - that pretty much settles it - Obama will be our next POTUS.

Well, maybe not. I do, however, think it is a good indicator that he will get the nod for the Dems. Not so much because of the pull Ted has, which he does, but more because Ted is smart. He's not going to back a loser. He will most certainly toss his hat in the ring with the man -yes man- most likely to win. No, he won't jump on as VP. Even he knows he would ruin Obama's chances.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 01-28-2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SLO-BOB

Ted Kennedy threw his support behind Obama - that pretty much settles it - Obama will be our next POTUS.

Well, maybe not. I do, however, think it is a good indicator that he will get the nod for the Dems. Not so much because of the pull Ted has, which he does, but more because Ted is smart. He's not going to back a loser. He will most certainly toss his hat in the ring with the man -yes man- most likely to win. No, he won't jump on as VP. Even he knows he would ruin Obama's chances.

I think the Obama campaign was glad to get his support, but according to Fox News they placed one stipulation on it: Obama wasn't to go any car rides with Teddy.

BeyGon · 01-28-2008, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SLO-BOB

Ted Kennedy threw his support behind Obama - that pretty much settles it - Obama will be our next POTUS.

Well, maybe not. I do, however, think it is a good indicator that he will get the nod for the Dems. Not so much because of the pull Ted has, which he does, but more because Ted is smart. He's not going to back a loser. He will most certainly toss his hat in the ring with the man -yes man- most likely to win. No, he won't jump on as VP. Even he knows he would ruin Obama's chances.

Maybe the Kennedys just don't like the Clintons.

SLO-BOB · 01-28-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon

Maybe the Kennedys just don't like the Clintons.

I think any politician, especially a Kennedy, would sleep with whomever the gain would be the greatest.

legion · 01-28-2008, 06:16 AM

I don't think Clinton has reached very deeply into her bag of dirty tricks yet. None of the Republicans have taken a shot at him either. There is a LOT of material there for whoever chooses to look for it. The Tony Rezko thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 01-28-2008, 06:22 AM

Prediction:

Republican candidate will keep the 20% Bush deadenders, 50% of Republicans who consider themselves traditional conservatives and get 30% all Independents.

Obama will take 100% Democrats, 70% Independents and 30% Republicans thoroughly disgusted with the state of the party.

legion · 01-28-2008, 06:39 AM

That's pretty optimistic Shaun. And that assumes no one realizes Obama is a hardcore liberal socialist before the general election.

Nope, this election will be the same story with different candidates.

Although I don't expect to hear a peep about "voter irregularities" if a Dem is elected.

SLO-BOB · 01-28-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Prediction:

Republican candidate will keep the 20% Bush deadenders, 50% of Republicans who consider themselves traditional conservatives and get 30% all Independents.

Obama will take 100% Democrats, 70% Independents and 30% Republicans thoroughly disgusted with the state of the party.

I didn't put numbers to it, but I agree with your theory. I also believe that Democrats will rally an unprecedented turnout at the polls.

legion · 01-28-2008, 06:53 AM

I predict whoever is elected, they will be a one-termer. The economy is going to tank the next few years, and may not recover before the next general election.

BeyGon · 01-28-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by legion

I predict whoever is elected, they will be a one-termer. The economy is going to tank the next few years, and may not recover before the next general election.

That could be the opening for Newt and Condi to start their campaign in about two years. Newt for Pres and Condi for VP of course.

SLO-BOB · 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by legion

I predict whoever is elected, they will be a one-termer. The economy is going to tank the next few years, and may not recover before the next general election.

For sure if Obama gets elected, but I'm not so sure if Romney gets elected. Imo, we need a Republican prez now more than ever.

WI wide body · 01-28-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WI wide body

Obama has some momentum (even tho SC is not that important)

I dissagree, it was very important. Ex President Bill Clinton was "The first Black President". He called every SC Black minister to support Hillary. Result-Obama win with 55%, Hillary 27%.

John_AZ

The reason I said that is because SC has a far out of whack percentage of black voters that most likely will not apply in any of the other truly important states. Obama might have gotten a false bump because of the % of blacks among SC Dems.

Besides, SC is probably gonna vote GOP when it counts in Nov.