Tibet. What an embarrasment.

livi · 03-19-2008, 04:33 AM

On the shoulders of the international community. Are we all so afraid of ruining our relationship with the upcoming economic superpower China??? It is a sad sad load of hypocrite crap that we don´t speak up more vigorously for the people of Tibet against the red dragon.

Sorry for bad spelling. Spell Checks kaput.

frogger · 03-19-2008, 04:35 AM

China own us right now.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Plenty of more outrageous things going on the the world that get less attention than Tibet. Sure, it's wrong and unjust. But they can take their place in line behind Darfur, N. Korea, etc.

legion · 03-19-2008, 04:55 AM

I think this is GREAT!

I really think this whole Olympic thing is going to backfire on China, big time.

China is oppressing Tibet and pushing a racist policy that encourages Han Chinese to settle there and breed native Tibetans out of existence. (Edward Longshanks anyone?)

In a few months, the international media will be gathered in China, and I'm willing to bet native Tibetans use this to their advantage.

How will China respond? Like they always do. They will crack down on domestic and international press. They will send reporters home who don't agree to have their stories re-written by Chinese authorities. They will have guided tours for reporters designed to showcase Chinese "progress" and hide the atrocities still going on.

Yeah, that will go over well...

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

Extremely sad. The human rights record of the Chinese is abysmal, as is their. . . Oooh! Look! A cheap plasma TV and some $4 shirts! What was I saying again?

Jeff Higgins · 03-19-2008, 05:03 AM

Huh? And all this time I've been wondering where I could get my "Free Tibet".

Rot 911 · 03-19-2008, 05:10 AM

Tibet has nothing the world wants so the world will just stand by and do nothing. Just like every atrocity that occurs in Africa.

Mo_Gearhead · 05:27 AM

QUOTE: "Tibet has nothing the world wants so the world will just stand by and do nothing. Just like every atrocity that occurs in Africa."
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"The world will just stand by" ...meaning ...the USA?

I have had it up to HERE with the USA being the worlds policeman. Shall we send in troops? Send them pallets of 'aid money'? Attempt to instill democracy in places that has never know it? Send in missionaries to convert the heathens?

Pfffft!

I, for one, am ready to pull back, take a breath and start letting all the SOB's (with their hands constantly out, asking for assistance from us) to find a way to take care of themselves for a while!

livi · 03-19-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Extremely sad. The human rights record of the Chinese is abysmal, as is their. . . Oooh! Look! A cheap plasma TV and some $4 shirts! What was I saying again?

I think you have summed it up pretty darn well, right there!

Porsche_monkey · 03-19-2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead

I have had it up to HERE with the USA being the worlds policeman.

I think he was suggesting diplomatic options.

And I don't think one country alone will be enough. United Nations? G7?

Zef · Zef's Garage

No oil....Like Rwanda in the nineties.

WolfeMacleod · 03-19-2008, 06:02 AM

Free Tibet!
With purchase of equal or larger country!

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

While I certainly don't support China's actions in Tibet, they have done the exact same thing to the Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang, the province directly north of Tibet. In fact, Tibetans and Uighurs are minorities in their own homelands now. Han settlers outnumber them. You never hear anything about Xinjiang because they're Muslims. In fact, the only blurb about it in the new are the five or so we had in Gitmo, who were mistakenly detained, have nothing to do with al Qaeda and we still kept for years for fear of what will happen to them if they end up back home. I think Albania took them, last I heard.

I think the Dalai Lama has done an excellent job of whipping up western sympathy for Tibet, when the vast majority of those sympathizers know nothing whatsoever about the history. It's not like the Dalai Lama is some Ghandi-like character or the native Tibetans had a peaceful utopia before the PRC marched in. There is some serious history there and it's not all rosy for the Tibetans.

stealthn · 03-19-2008, 08:00 AM

As stated there are more, MANY MORE things going on all over the world that make Tibet look like neverland. The world (not just the US) has to start to come together and I think it's going to take many generations, or a close encounter of the third kind to finally do it.

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http://www.theshiftmovie.com/home.html

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

Agreed, but it's still better to be autonomous and have your own identity than be forcibly annexed by a reckless imperialist power like China. I guess if anyone should be happy about these developments, it's the Taiwanese. Any saber-rattling on the part of the Chinese against Taiwan would only work against them right now as most of the ROW seems to sympathize with the Tibetans and would see it as just another chapter in bullyish Chinese expansionism.

Dottore · 03-19-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by legion

I think this is GREAT!

I really think this whole Olympic thing is going to backfire on China, big time.

China is oppressing Tibet and pushing a racist policy that encourages Han Chinese to settle there and breed native Tibetans out of existence. (Edward Longshanks anyone?)

In a few months, the international media will be gathered in China, and I'm willing to bet native Tibetans use this to their advantage.

How will China respond? Like they always do. They will crack down on domestic and international press. They will send reporters home who don't agree to have their stories re-written by Chinese authorities. They will have guided tours for reporters designed to showcase Chinese "progress" and hide the atrocities still going on.

Yeah, that will go over well...

I'll take that bet.

I think the Olympics will be spectacular. The Chinese have too much pride riding on them, and they're certainly not going to make asses of themselves when the world is watching them closely.

Dottore · 03-19-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by livi

I think you have summed it up pretty darn well, right there!

Yup.

Neilk · 03-19-2008, 08:29 AM

First Tibet then start ratcheting up the pressure on Taiwan.

MRM · 03-19-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PBH

I think he was suggesting diplomatic options.

And I don't think one country alone will be enough. United Nations? G7?

Heavens, no, not the United Nations. The US should never surrender its soverenty to some world government. Don't they have black helicopters or something? It's much better for the US to unilaterally infringe on other nations' sovernty than to involve some socialist sounding world body like the United Nations. Didn't Bush I teach us that.

Wait a minute. Do I have that backwards?

livi · 03-19-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MRM

Heavens, no, not the United Nations. The US should never surrender its soverenty to some world government. Don't they have black helicopters or something? It's much better for the US to unilaterally infringe on other nations' sovernty than to involve some socialist sounding world body like the United Nations. Didn't Bush I teach us that.

Wait a minute. Do I have that backwards?

Relax. Irony is a global language. Even a durn for'ner fully enjoy it!