997 flashed me today

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by v8_ranch

As someone mentioned the jeep wave above, there is also a similar thing in the Miata world, only they flash you with the manual headlight open button (pop them open and back down). I thought I had seen everything until someone told me about a circuit you could modify/build that would only pop open one headlight for such occasions, thus "winking" to the other driver... yikes...

Uhm Shane, I'm pretty sure that "Miata Flash" is more a gay thing , sorta like that congressmans "wide stance" in the stall at the restroom

[SCWDP911]

Yeah, but there are probably just as many gay porsche drivers as there are miata drivers. Ev's to them that are and I'll leave it their business.

That said, I have seen some miata's (modified of course) that would give plenty a 911 a run on the track...

[ToddM]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

I'll say it again, I find it amusingly ironic that the air cooled snobs on this forum are galled that the drivers of water cooled cars don't acknowledge them, when in fact, those same air cooled drivers admit that they will not acknowledge the water cooled cars and their drivers. When I meet guys like you, I just have to quietly chuckle at your self-righteous exclusiveness - and remember, I myself am the proud owner of an air cooled 911.

You'll never hear me complain about not being acknowledged by a 996/997 driver. As I have been attempting to state, theres no more meaning in those cars to me than there is a Toyota Camry.

As far as tracking your 996, consider yourself lucky because when your 1 part number for Porsche transmission or engine fails, you'll be buying an entire new one. Also the 996 is rather worthless on the track since you can't even regear the darn thing since every gear is press fit onto the mainshaft.

[ToddM]

[QUOTE=rfloz;3880746]So, Todd. Are you really the world's angriest Porsche ownerQUOTE]

No, actually, I am quite happy with my car and I really don't go out trying to seek the approval of others or use it to impress women (or men)

[rnln]

Hey guys, I got a flashed today too. Not from a cute girl but from an older lady, well still a female. I slowed down, while she sped up, to wave at her and give her a smile. She waved at me too, with her middle finger

[450knotOffice]

Consider myself lucky? I don't know. Maybe, but if I have to replace the engine in that car, it won't be too expensive, relatively speaking (compared to my 911's engine). Also, I'm tracking it occasionally to have fun, not to get serious about racing with it, so I don't care if I may not be able to easily change out the gears. That's not an issue for me.

[ToddM]

Originally Posted by rnln

Hey guys, I got a flashed today too. Not from a cute girl but from an older lady, well still a female. I slowed down, while she sped up, to wave at her and give her a smile. She waved at me too, with her middle finger

Maybe she wanted to F you

[wastintime]

Originally Posted by ljowdy

What a let down!!!!

I expected to read about women removing thier clothing as you pass by. Isn't that the definition of flashing ???

hey I did throw that in there for those that wanted it... read the post of this thread on when I was in college

[speeder]

Originally Posted by ToddM

You'll never hear me complain about not being acknowledged by a 996/997 driver. As I have been attempting to state, theres no more meaning in those cars to me than there is a Toyota Camry.

As far as tracking your 996, consider yourself lucky because when your 1 part number for Porsche transmission or engine fails, you'll be buying an entire new one. Also the 996 is rather worthless on the track since you can't even regear the darn thing since every gear is press fit onto the mainshaft.

Absolute bullschit. You wear your ignorance like a badge of honor. There are more factory-supported, ready-to-race 996/997 cars than there ever were when your POS was new. Why did you have to change the engine? How much did that cost? Couldn't have been much, right? Only about 4 times what a crate 996 trans costs from Porsche. Life is too short to work on slow cars all the time. Some guys just want to drive.

And for people who care about performance, not some "mystique" that they don't even understand, Toyota builds some dead reliable everyday cars that are faster than your sled.

[wastintime]

easy guys... we're all friends here... or we at least care for everyone like we would an estranged semi-retarded cousin...

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by speeder

And for people who care about performance, not some "mystique" that they don't even understand, Toyota builds some dead reliable everyday cars that are faster than your sled.

I've got to chime in here...I rode with Denis in his car and was frankly amazed at how well the car captured the 911 mystique. While it could have been the driver, his car made all the right noises with better purpose than any of the Porsche's I've owned. It is a fast, reliable, tossable Panzer.

I have owned a '68 912, a '70 911T, a '75 911S, an '83 SC and a '94 964 Targa.

Any argument on lineage of a Porsche is silly, especially the Toyota reference. You want to be embarrassed, race my 78 year-old Father in his RX-7 with your 82. It won't go well.

I need a post 2000 model to keep my decade string active

[450knotOffice]

Speeder, I was wondering when you'd jump in here.

[alf]

I am starting to see about 50% of the 997s flash or wave, I pass at least one a day in the neighborhood on the way to the office. Just had a Cayman wave this morning, first one

[speeder]

Almost everyone who hates the new cars has never driven one. It's uncanny. My 996 is one hell of a lot more of a "real Porsche" than some 924/944/928/etc., (not that I dislike those cars). Liquid-cooling is fairly minor change to the car, all things considered.

The 997 is incredibly faithful to the original 911, more so than any retro version of various cars that are out there. It's an evolution, and a pretty slow one at that. At one time I lusted for a 993, (when they were current), I still like them, but the 997 mops the floor with that car. Even in looks, IMO.

[4flyboy]

I read this thread this morning and drove to a friends birthday party off of Mulholand Drive in West L.A. Immediately upon exiting the Fwy and hitting some of my favorite curves I encountered a pretty little mid-year black Targa going the opposite direction. He beat me to the flashers! It put me in such a good mood that I gave it a shot with a GT-2 that I encountered later in the day. I got nothing but in fairness those guys are a little slow on the draw.

Scott

[ToddM]

Originally Posted by speeder

Absolute bullschit. You wear your ignorance like a badge of honor. There are more factory-supported, ready-to-race 996/997 cars than there ever were when your POS was new. Why did you have to change the engine? How much did that cost? Couldn't have been much, right? Only about 4 times what a crate 996 trans costs from Porsche. Life is too short to work on slow cars all the time. Some guys just want to drive.

And for people who care about performance, not some "mystique" that they don't even understand, Toyota builds some dead reliable everyday cars that are faster than your sled.

I don't know what this has to do with flashing and models.

This is humorous because those who are most defensive of these cars are the ones who overpaid for one when there are far better other new cars on the market. Also, *I* am not the on who changed the engine, it cost me $0, so who was calling who ignorant? I've ben well known to state on here there are things about the 3.0L engine that I prefer over the 3.6L engine.

While I think the 996 was a good starting platform/chassis, and I did not say it was a slow car, but maybe you can explain to me:

Questions:

1. Why the transmission and motor are one part number from Porsche?
2. Why all your gears are pressed onto the mainshaft
3. Why the Turbo, GT3 and GT2 use the bottom of end of of the 993 engine

Answers:

1. Because the transmission and engine are disposable items
2. Porsche has cheapened the manufactuing process here and elsewhere
3. The lower end of that PoS engine cant stand up to the stresses of the higher output.

And the final question, which I will leave you to answer yourself is, how much do you there is in common with the 996s in race events vs. than the one you buy from the dealer? This die hard "Porsche or nothing" elitest attitude is anything but productive for anybody except the bean counters at Porsche AG.

Buy whatever you like, but don't sit here and badmouth me about stating FACTS. I have driven all of these cars and the only one that even got any spark out of my was a GT3. But as soon as you hit redline once, consider your warranty void, Porsche will tell you the same thing.

And you are making my point for me... I'd rather have a new Toyota anything than a 996. There are more imporant things to me than how "fast" something is such as long-term reliability.

Out of respect for the brand, I would flash a Toyota before I flashed a 996. Read into that what you want.

[ToddM]

Originally Posted by speeder

Almost everyone who hates the new cars has never driven one. It's uncanny. My 996 is one hell of a lot more of a "real Porsche" than some 924/944/928/etc., (not that I dislike those cars). Liquid-cooling is fairly minor change to the car, all things considered.

The 997 is incredibly faithful to the original 911, more so than any retro version of various cars that are out there. It's an evolution, and a pretty slow one at that. At one time I lusted for a 993, (when they were current), I still like them, but the 997 mops the floor with that car. Even in looks, IMO.

There was no evolution here. It was a clean slate NEW platform. The 996/997 shares NOTHING with the 911.

What does "real Porsche" mean? They are all Porsches whether you like them or not.

You could call the 356 mostly VW the same same you can call the 914.

I flash 356s all the time. I will never flash a boxter/996 or 997 unless flashed first.