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There are two reasons I don't go in the ocean anymore, ever.
One, it's mankind's toilet, and that's gross.
Two, I enjoy being on top of the food chain. Using myself as bait kind of defeats that purpose.
I won't get eaten by a shark, or bear, or crocodile, or tiger. And that isn't by accident.

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I just got off the phone with my wife. We're planning to enroll our kids in Life Guard camp but now the wife is waffling. It took two years for me to convince her that Shark attacks are uncommon and that the kids will be safe and now this
You should listen to your wife perhaps.

People do get killed by sharks. People do also drown. Including lifeguards.

There are plenty of awesome things to do in life without subjecting oneself to an environment that our species is certainly not designed for

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You should listen to your wife perhaps.

People do get killed by sharks. People do also drown. Including lifeguards.

There are plenty of awesome things to do in life without subjecting oneself to an environment that our species is certainly not designed for

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You should also live life, that's what it's for. What's the point of hiding in the closet? I've spent 40 plus years on and in the sea. My son is under the sea frequently for months at a time. I tried working away from it for a while. That almost killed me or certainly would have caused a mental breakdown!
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good god...do some of you guys live wrapped in bubble wrap?!?!?

I find the "risk inconsistency" pretty amazing around this place.
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you just need a surf rack for your aprilia, and you're set!
They make them for bicycles...since I'm hauling a bodyboard it is a bit easier but not really a motorcycle friendly thing. I can easily fit a wetsuit, towel and fins between the rear back and a backpack so I could bodysurf - and be even more seal-like to the sharks
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They make them for bicycles...since I'm hauling a bodyboard it is a bit easier but not really a motorcycle friendly thing. I can easily fit a wetsuit, towel and fins between the rear back and a backpack so I could bodysurf - and be even more seal-like to the sharks
Add this, and you're set!

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It's all about choices. I used to surf about 3 times a week when i was in high school and college, San Onofre was my favorite spot.
Now I don't like the idea of going in sewage water where there are big animals that might eat me, so I go to the Colorado river. A zillion times cleaner, biggest thing there is a catfish or bass, and I can run my wave runners there all the time without worrying about the saltwater eating up all the wiring etc.
there are lots of places and things to do without going in the ocean. But if that's you thing, go with it. Not for me.
How many times do they close a beach in So Cal because of sewage related bacteria? too often. Way too often. It's always there but most of the time it's within their "acceptable limits. Not mine, theirs.
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You should also live life, that's what it's for. What's the point of hiding in the closet? I've spent 40 plus years on and in the sea. My son is under the sea frequently for months at a time. I tried working away from it for a while. That almost killed me or certainly would have caused a mental breakdown!
I live life everyday, i don't need to go into an ocean full of extremely well adapted predators to do it either! Not to mention the salt, vast expanses of emptiness, massive depths, strong and unpredictible storms, and highly dangerous coastal currents.

No thanks, the sea offers nothing in life that i desire.

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good god...do some of you guys live wrapped in bubble wrap?!?!?

I find the "risk inconsistency" pretty amazing around this place.
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Apex Predator.
Exactly.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/336740/great_white_shark/

No amount of bubble wrap will protect you (or your kids) versus that.
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True apex predator?

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It's all about choices. I used to surf about 3 times a week when i was in high school and college, San Onofre was my favorite spot.
Now I don't like the idea of going in sewage water where there are big animals that might eat me, so I go to the Colorado river. A zillion times cleaner, biggest thing there is a catfish or bass, and I can run my wave runners there all the time without worrying about the saltwater eating up all the wiring etc.
there are lots of places and things to do without going in the ocean. But if that's you thing, go with it. Not for me.
How many times do they close a beach in So Cal because of sewage related bacteria? too often. Way too often. It's always there but most of the time it's within their "acceptable limits. Not mine, theirs.
I don't go out in the SM Bay (almost always Zuma). And the odds of getting seriously hurt are likely WAY higher playing with a wave runner on the river than of getting eaten by a shark in SoCal waters. And as for bacterial counts...let's just say that you might want to look at all aspects of your life and figure out where the bugs really are. But like you say, choices...

As for me I spent another 2 hours out at Zuma today in near perfect conditions. Just a little small, but glassy and hollow even at 1pm. I beat...need coffee.

oh wait, the caffeine will kill me
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I live life everyday, i don't need to go into an ocean full of extremely well adapted predators to do it either! Not to mention the salt, vast expanses of emptiness, massive depths, strong and unpredictible storms, and highly dangerous coastal currents.

No thanks, the sea offers nothing in life that i desire.
how in the world have I managed to live to the ripe old age of 46? And my son...he's been in the ocean since about age 3. Between surfing and riding a motorcycle I should have burst into flames years ago

We all have fears, and often they are tied to lack of knowledge. I respect the ocean immensely because I know how bad it can get. I've studied it and lived next to it all my life. It is where life essentially started, and holds a siren song for many. If you've never ridden a wave, you can't really understand the joy that erupts from your soul as you get covered up in the green room.

But it certainly isn't for everyone. Water was 56 degrees today (not bad), and I've been so cold before that I could barely think straight (well, as straight as I normally can). As for fears, I have pretty nasty acrophobia. Even two stories up I can get weak kneed. Pretty funny that I climbed telephone poles for a living for a year or two
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I live life everyday, i don't need to go into an ocean full of extremely well adapted predators to do it either! Not to mention the salt, vast expanses of emptiness, massive depths, strong and unpredictible storms, and highly dangerous coastal currents.

No thanks, the sea offers nothing in life that i desire.
Does 'living life everyday' really count when you spend the entire day in the basement of your mom's house watching Dr Phil, playing World of WarCraft, and making wooden swords for the LARPing tournaments you never get around to entering?

Just sayin'...
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Does 'living life everyday' really count when you spend the entire day in the basement of your mom's house watching Dr Phil, playing World of WarCraft, and making wooden swords for the LARPing tournaments you never get around to entering?

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Does 'living life everyday' really count when you spend the entire day in the basement of your mom's house watching Dr Phil, playing World of WarCraft, and making wooden swords for the LARPing tournaments you never get around to entering?

Just sayin'...
I'm really starting to like you... I'm guessing you had enough of his schit?

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