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My thinking was that perhaps you would be coming to the area. You are the one talking out of your ass, not I. Being dubious about the veracity of a statement is a bit short of calling someone a liar.

There is nothing that you could do or say that would be worth $50,000 dollars to me, that is a ridiculous proposition. Personally, I have very little regard for the things you say, and have no doubt whatsoever I am not alone in this sentiment.

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Old 07-03-2008, 10:26 AM
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Good hustle in a pool hall...not so good here.
Put up or shut up!
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My thinking was that perhaps you would be coming to the area. You are the one talking out of your ass, not I.

There is nothing that you could do or say that would be worth $50,000 dollars to me
Exactly...an old pool hall hustle. Won't make a $100 bet because the player know's he'd lose...so he ups the bet to a ridiculous amount so he doesn't have to play. Somebody just lost cred with me...
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:30 AM
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I dunno, you guys calling him a liar have the burden of proof on your shoulders, not the other way around. You guys are failing the "social experiment."
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Exactly...an old pool hall hustle. Won't make a $100 bet because the player know's he'd lose...so he ups the bet to a ridiculous amount so he doesn't have to play. Somebody just lost cred with me...
Not quite the same there, numbnuts.

Tobra's "offer" was for me to travel to the other side of the world for a lousy $100! Would you do that? I replied if that is the offer then Tobra would have to make it worthwhile for me. That is hardly an unreasonable request.

Let's turn it around, You guys travel to France and if I cannot prove it I'll pay you $100. What? You would not agree to that? Who knew?

The only cred that has been lost here is from the big-mouthed, small-brained group who made the claim I was lying in the first place.

What no balls?
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What , you don't beleive that I am a NRA Life member? How large of a bet would you weak-minded panties like to make? Would you all agree not to pull a snowedman and back out?

What a bunch of wankers!
Jim...RPKESQ asked how large a bet

Tobra responded

RPKESQ then upped the bet in a ridiculous manner...

If he tried this in any serious pool hall, he'd get escorted out the door.

Or...in some pool halls, he'd lose his $50K...but those halls are few and far apart.

Anyway, I see no burden of proof on anybody's part...
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Paul, $100 + tomatos and a requirement to fly from France back to SFO is lame. Tobra was being too coy and he's aware of it.

Calling somebody a liar carries a burden of proof. At least in America.
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On the other hand...an NRA life membership costs how much? Obama would sign up in a heartbeat if it meant $50K in his pocket. I AM a life member of the NRA...looking at my membership card does not give the date I joined.
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On the other hand...an NRA life membership costs how much? Obama would sign up in a heartbeat if it meant $50K in his pocket. I AM a life member of the NRA...looking at my membership card does not give the date I joined.
Wow, now you think I would weasel out by signing up at this date. Just amazing all the ways you can find to back out of your claims. How very lame.

Put up enough money (it was your side who came up with the bet idea) to make it worth my while to come to you or find a way to accept proof that protects me or shut the F*ck up.
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just stirring the pot a bit

RP , easy enough..T is a DR..he will PM you with his fax #,
copy your card..send it.
T. is old enough,man enough to confirm your membership,
to most of us it doesn't matter anyway.
You just seem to believe that we should belief in / follow your failed social system.
as far as protecting you..
just assume the national defence position of France..

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just stirring the pot a bit

RP , easy enough..T is a DR..he will PM you with his fax #,
copy your card..send it.
T. is old enough,man enough to confirm your membership,
to most of us it doesn't matter anyway.
You just seem to believe that we should belief in / follow your failed social system.
as far as protecting you..
just assume the national defence position of France..

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Well how does that protect me? Or is reading comprehension in TX an optional skill?

As far as France's failed social system they are doing pretty well. Lets see, in the top ten in GNP, number one in health care quality multiple times, only space program in the black, 80%+ electrical power from nuclear, 220 mph train service, number one tourist destination for over 40 years, independant nuclear force (still a pretty small club), more productive per hour worked than the US, great family values, fantastic food (sets the world standard), great currency value...............

Yes, that all spells out failure.

And again, the repetition of the (American only BTW) myth that somehow the French are not very brave. Really, do you have any actual knowledge of history? Or do you just repeat any BS as long as it makes you feel good.

Your insults concerning France only highlight your ignorance, they don't affect me at all. Hell, keep repeating the France BS, I will enjoy France even more without the crowds in my area. I could not care less if you personally want to continue down the same failed direction Bush jr. has set you on, but I do care if the US continues to do so. You obviously do not.
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It's not our fault that the French got crushed...yes...crushed....in two straight world wars.

So hey man, don't be all uppity with us. Go talk smack on a German board.
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It's not our fault that the French got crushed...yes...crushed....in two straight world wars.

So hey man, don't be all uppity with us. Go talk smack on a German board.
Feel free to enjoy our France-aided independence from England day tomorrow.
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It's not our fault that the French got crushed...yes...crushed....in two straight world wars.

So hey man, don't be all uppity with us. Go talk smack on a German board.
Your complete lack of knowledge concerning world history is apparent. Please either post your evidence or admit your ignorance. There are several historical research sites on the web that will show the folly and stupidity of continuing to repeat such BS.

I'll wait why you screw up the courage to do the research.
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Paul, $100 + tomatos and a requirement to fly from France back to SFO is lame. Tobra was being too coy and he's aware of it.

Calling somebody a liar carries a burden of proof. At least in America.
Not at all. I made an offer, that would be very reasonable if he were planning to come to the US, SF is just his kind of town, and only a few hours away from my home. He countered with an offer that is simply ridiculous.

If he were serious, his response would have been more along the lines of, "How about I send a photocopy of the documents and $100 to a third party, say you for example, and Toby sends $100. Jim sends the $200, less postage, to the winner." l would be amenable to this, because anyone who likes Ike is aces with me.

As stated above, you respond as he did in the wrong pool hall and you would be looking for your fingers and or teeth

As I said, he is talking out of his ass, again.
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It was the US need for French support in Europe against the Soviet threat in the late 40's and 50's that led to the US supporting French colonial claims in Indo China. That was a grave mistake which the US has paid dearly for, since the US saw red and didn't realize old uncle Ho was a nationalist first and a commie second. Uncle Ho's role model was none other than Thomas Jefferson.

Also it was De Gaulle that had the affront of demanding that Gold be exchanged for American tourist dollars in 1967. As America had pegged the price of Gold to $35 an oz it was keeping the US currency artifically high while the US was running deficeits because of its military adventure in Indo China. It was also about this time that France withdrew from NATO.

The French like most Europeans have relied on the US to provide a military shield. If the Europeans had to bear the full cost of their defence the economic situation in France as well as Europe would be quite different. Military spending is a drain on any economic system as it produces nothing that enhances an economy.

With regards to the French Nuclear arsenal, they can say thanks to America.

Not only that but it was Grape Vines from CA that has saved the French Wine industry. They had a virus that virtually wiped out the French vineyards. Besides that wine from CA is now considered to be on a par with French wine IF NOT BETTER.
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Not at all. I made an offer, that would be very reasonable if he were planning to come to the US, SF is just his kind of town, and only a few hours away from my home. He countered with an offer that is simply ridiculous.

If he were serious, his response would have been more along the lines of, "How about I send a photocopy of the documents and $100 to a third party, say you for example, and Toby sends $100. Jim sends the $200, less postage, to the winner." l would be amenable to this, because anyone who likes Ike is aces with me.

As stated above, you respond as he did in the wrong pool hall and you would be looking for your fingers and or teeth

As I said, he is talking out of his ass, again.
Let’s examine this whole issue.

You and your ilk are the one who questioned my honesty and came up with the bet idea.

Then you made an offer that was reasonable working with an assumption you had no verification of. Seems to be a trend with you, or is your reading comprehension so poor that you did not know that I'm in France? I pointed out in my reply it was a ridiculous offer and requested to make it worth my while to travel half way around the world or come up with something better. If you think your offer was so reasonable then let’s reverse it. Yeah, I thought so.

You all whine about the amounts, well where is the counter offer? Or do you just whine when someone calls your bluff?

And the best you and your gang of nitwits could come up with is for me to send personal documents to someone I don't know? Would you do such a thing? If so, you’re really not too bright.

So before you and the rest of the good 'ol boys continue with how I would be handed my fingers or life in a pool hall (you’re all so big and strong over the internet!), why don't you put up or shut up. It's your call.

I sense you are the one talking through your ass maybe which is why you had chosen San Francisco. It was really a date.
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It was the US need for French support in Europe against the Soviet threat in the late 40's and 50's that led to the US supporting French colonial claims in Indo China. That was a grave mistake which the US has paid dearly for, since the US saw red and didn't realize old uncle Ho was a nationalist first and a commie second. Uncle Ho's role model was none other than Thomas Jefferson.

Also it was De Gaulle that had the affront of demanding that Gold be exchanged for American tourist dollars in 1967. As America had pegged the price of Gold to $35 an oz it was keeping the US currency artifically high while the US was running deficeits because of its military adventure in Indo China. It was also about this time that France withdrew from NATO.

The French like most Europeans have relied on the US to provide a military shield. If the Europeans had to bear the full cost of their defence the economic situation in France as well as Europe would be quite different. Military spending is a drain on any economic system as it produces nothing that enhances an economy.

With regards to the French Nuclear arsenal, they can say thanks to America.

Not only that but it was Grape Vines from CA that has saved the French Wine industry. They had a virus that virtually wiped out the French vineyards. Besides that wine from CA is now considered to be on a par with French wine IF NOT BETTER.
All mostly true. Who ever claimed that France was perfect? Not I. So what is your point?

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