Enviro Commies

[Mule]

We are told that socialism is our only hope to save the planet but apparently the Chinese didn't get the memo.


BEIJING (Reuters) - Unidentified members of the U.S. cycling squad arrived at Beijing airport wearing black respiratory masks, a U.S. Olympic committee spokesman said on Tuesday.

One woman wearing a mask which covered the nose and mouth was in what appeared to be an American team T-shirt, photographs showed. A male wore a white T-shirt with BEIJING in black letters across the chest.

"I suspect it was their choice, you would have to talk to them as to what prompted them to do this. I will say this, I am not a scientist, but in my view that was unnecessary," said Darryl Seibel, chief communications officer of the U.S. Olympic Committee.

A U.S. team official said members of the cycling squad were wearing the masks but declined further comment.

Beijing's pollution has been a cause for concern for athletes heading for the Games which begin on Friday.

[VINMAN]

I understand Nike has come out with a new line of respirators......

[red-beard]

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[Mule]

At the opening ceremonies Obama will show up unexpectedly and exhale on the city, leaving the air as pristine as anwar.

[red-beard]

But much hotter

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Mule

We are told that socialism is our only hope to save the planet but apparently the Chinese didn't get the memo.

Well, are they commies or socialists? Get your thoughts straight man!

[island911]

Originally Posted by red-beard

But much hotter

Hey now ... Only Obama is allowed to make references to Paris Hilton .

[varmint]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

Well, are they commies or socialists? Get your thoughts straight man!

communist, socialist, fascist. for practical purposes, there is no difference.






remember the old days, when the soviets would dispose of old sub reactors by dumping them in the arctic ocean? good times.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

Well, are they commies or socialists? Get your thoughts straight man!

As a proponent of all things left, enlighten us.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Mule

As a proponent of all things left, enlighten us.

See that tree you're barking up? It's the wrong one. If you don't know the fundamental differences (CRITICAL differences!) between communism and socialism, then you shouldn't be using those words. Stick with the 15 or so words that you do understand, and keep only reposting things that other people create...their words, their pictures, their ideas...you work best that way.

[Mule]

Since you're walking around with the big brain, fill us in why don't ya?

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Mule

Since you're walking around with the big brain, fill us in why don't ya?

Fill you in that you don't do anything original? I'll give you this...the first sentence of this thread was original writing. That was the first actual original thing I've seen from you in weeks. People may not like what I have to say here, but at least it's mine, and not copied and pasted, or otherwise stolen, from someone else's efforts. Don't you have any almost pornographic pictures of girls (that someone else took, of course) to post somewhere?

[island911]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

See that tree you're barking up? It's the wrong one. If you don't know the fundamental differences (CRITICAL differences!) between communism and socialism, then you shouldn't be using those words. Stick with the 15 or so words that you do understand, and keep only reposting things that other people create...their words, their pictures, their ideas...you work best that way.

and if you don't understand that no one cares if you kill a rabbit or split a hare, you may as well stop posting here.

Seriously, why do you repeatedly go looking for some side-topic to start busting ...

eh

[Mule]

Didn't mean to ask a question you couldn't answer. Sorry.

[RANDY P]

Back on topic- Beijing you do need a respirator even being a civillian there, it's a dump. Last year, when I went people were coming down with coughs and whatnot just 3 days in. Smog was so bad every day looked like morning fog- except it was mid 70's outside.

I would hate to see what it's like as a athlete going to air like that - they are not exaggerating.

[Red Baron]

He must still be fuming that he was unable to convince anyone that "Unique Whips" is actually a great show with cool cars.

[Mule]

I like it when that fat Edited - language removed, Z-man Will, rides around on his Hoveround. It needs some spinners!

[island911]

Originally Posted by RANDY P

... when I went people were coming down with coughs and whatnot just 3 days in. ....

Yes, but, to be fair, I had some friends just return from Beijing and they said breathing problems weren't as noticeable as the burning in the eyes? --yikes.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

He must still be fuming that he was unable to convince anyone that "Unique Whips" is actually a great show with cool cars.

I've never even seen that show, and no where in any way shape or form did I defend it. Try again.


Communism is a philosophical ideal, Socialism is a political ideal. Neither actually exists, but they come from two very different backgrounds, and define two very different things. No one lived by a philosophy, and no one debates political designs. I don't understand how anyone could possibly think that Communism and Socialism are the same, but I guess some people do. Whoulda thunk it.

"Didn't mean to ask a question you couldn't answer. Sorry."
The list of questions that I have asked of you that you were unable to answer grows, yet it's OK for you to just walk away after making claims (and claiming FACTS) that were shown to be wrong and unsubstantiated?

[cairns]

Pazuzu that's not quite right; communism is actually considered a branch of socialism and is a socioeconomic method that advances the socialistic ideal. Although they have different origins, confusing one with the other is understandable and probably quite common. From Wiki:

Socialism refers to any of various economic and political concepts of state or collective (i.e. public) ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods and services, some of which have been developed into more or less highly articulated theories and/or praxis. In a Marxist or labor-movement definition of the term, socialism is a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done with the goal of creating a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community. [2] This control may be exercised on behalf of the state, through a market, or through popular collectives such as workers' councils and cooperatives. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, cooperative, or worker ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments.

Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. It is usually considered to be a branch of socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution, although socialist historians say they are older.