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Converting Exhaust Heat Into Electricity

Interesting Stuff - I love crazy materials!

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Cars Could Get a Boost from Thermoelectric Materials - Thermoelectric materials could enhance the efficiency of internal combustion engines
By: Gabriel Gache, Science News Editor


Researchers recently invented a new type of compounds, called thermoelectric materials, which could make internal combustion engines and other devices that lose most of the energy they produce through heat more efficient by directly converting the extra amount of thermal energy into electricity.

Thermoelectric materials such as sodium-doped lead telluride alloys have been commercially available for some time, but the efficiency rate was only 0.71. The newly invented material however, thallium-doped lead telluride, has a rating of 1.5, at temperatures between 232 and 510 degrees Celsius, which, as it turns out, is also the temperature range reached by internal combustion engines during operation.

"The material does all the work. It produces electrical power just like conventional heat engines - steam engines, gas or diesel engines - that are coupled to electrical generators, but it uses electrons as the working fluids instead of water or gases, and makes electricity directly. Thermoelectrics are also very small. I like to say that TE converters compare to other heat engines like the transistor compares to the vacuum tube," said Joseph Heremans of the Ohio Eminent Scholar in Nanotechnology at the Ohio State University, leader of the project.

Usually when designing thermoelectric materials, researchers approach a strategy in which the compound's energy conversion capability is achieved by minimizing the heat loss through the material. However, the Ohio team, which had previously worked with nanomaterials in similar directions, decided to abandon the quest for low thermal conductivity and concentrate on how to efficiently convert the heat delivered to the material.

In order to do so, Heremans' team had to back up on some of their early work that suggested that electrons of thallium and tellurium experience quantum mechanical interactions, allowing the electrons of thallium to resonate with those of the lead telluride.

"It comes down to a peculiar behavior of an electron in a thallium atom when it has tellurium neighbors. We'd been working for 10 years to engineer this kind of behavior using different kinds of nanostructured materials, but with limited success. Then I saw this paper, and I knew we could do the same thing we'd been trying to do with nanostructures, but with this bulk semiconductor instead," he said.

With the help of Vladimir Jovovic of the Department of Mechanical Engineering at Ohio State University, Heremans designed the new material which was then created at the Osaka University and put through a series of test to see whether or not predictions were confirmed by experiment. The results of the tests showed that indeed the predicted physical mechanisms were present, giving the materials a rate of efficiency of 0.75 at 232 degrees Celsius and a rating of 1.5 at 510 Celsius.

"We hope to go much further. I think it should be quite possible to apply other lessons learned from thermoelectric nanotechnology to boost the rating by another factor of two - that's what we're shooting for now," Heremans said.

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Old 08-26-2008, 07:22 AM
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Why not just hook your turbo charger direct to a generator? Then use the exhaust heat to boil water for your steam turbine, then use the left over exhaust pressure to power an air generator? by the time your done you have more than you started with?
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Why not just hook your turbo charger direct to a generator? Then use the exhaust heat to boil water for your steam turbine, then use the left over exhaust pressure to power an air generator? by the time your done you have more than you started with?
This, of course, goes against the first law of thermodynamics and is impossible with a generator.

Now, with a gererator, it all makes sense.
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A huge amount of the potential energy from the gasoline consumed by an internal combustion engine is lost to friction and is expressed as heat. Reclaiming that heat to create more energy seems like a no-brainer as long as the device is cost-effective.
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You guys are forgetting about the Phlogiston Effect....

Actually, this is very cool stuff. Think of materials optimized for cogeneration from cooling towers, smoke stacks, or anything that generates waste heat. Potentially there's a wide range of devices that could become thermoelectric generators.
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Anything is possible with a gererator!

Cool idea and technology. I remember a while back BMW had a gas/steam hybrid engine that used the exhaust and coolant heat to power a small steam turbine. It apparently stayed a concept. It would be nice to improve on the low efficienty of the internal combustion engine, harnessing all of the dissipated heat energy would be a good place to start.
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Just a regular thermocouple generates voltage when exposed to heat.

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1.5% is crap!

HRSGs (Heat Recovery Steam Generators) in a Power Generation are about 40% thermally efficient. If you recovery the latent heat in the cooling water for heating, it can reach 70%.

Also, what is the cost of an exhaust system based on a Peltier generator? I expect it will be friggen expensive!

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