why i love being DEEE-VORCED! another reason.

[charleskieffner]

sunday early am drill.

type: springfield SUPER-DUPER MATCH .308

built: springfield custom shop-14 month wait (1999)

received and shot 200 rds federal 168gr boat tail hollowpoint match.

handed off to ARRINGTON ACCURACY.com 12 weeks later received.

zero: 100yds

MOA on national match sights: 1/2"=1-click elevation and windage.

scope: springfield mil-dot, illuminated 4.5 x 14

scope mt.: springfield QD

come-ups pasted on left hand buttstock.

diet: federal 168gr boattail hollowpoints or custom homemade top secret stealth BAD JU-JU zoomy moly's.

hygenic tendancies: swabbed/EVERY SHOT!!!!!!! or after hunt or bench session.

RANGE ME AND I'LL HIT IT! an ar-15.ak-47's WORST NIGHTMARE!!!

[charleskieffner]

lubricant: MIL-COMM.com. only jizzy JIZZ used by dillion mfg. on there .308 phlanx gatling gun system. only jizzy jizz used by ralph smith RDTS.com on his HK21E belt fed full autos.

and used by SCADS OF SMARTER GI's in afghan and iwaq who HATE DUST BEING ATTRACTED TO THEIR LUBRICANTS ON THEIR DAILY DRIVER WEAPONS!

[futuresoptions]

Ver nice Charles...Now you are like me... in need of painting the handguard... Enjoy!!!

[azasadny]

Wow!!

[SLO-BOB]

Nice! My wife bought me one just like it.

[Jeff Higgins]

I would be afraid to go hunting with a camo gun. I mean, if I ever had to set it down to, say, take a dump or something, I would probably lose it.

Nice rifles, Charles. I have to say an M1A is abou the only semi-auto centerfire rifle I would ever consider. I like the SOCOM... Didn't you show us a pic of one on the tailgate of your truck the other day?

[charleskieffner]

yes i did post a pic of "SON OF SUPER DUPER MATCH" aka meee-ster SOCOM. meee-ster SOCOM also was purchased, lierally ran home to safe and grabbed 200 rds 147 fmj's and lit 200 rds (10mags of 20) and it was handed over to arringtonaccuracy.com for a massage.

phil wanted me to wipe down factory lube, lube rifle , and shoot the snot out of it. which we gleefully did............in as much time as it takes to click "8" clicks up for 100yd zero (1"MOA = 1 click on socom vs national match sites on super duper match which are 1/2" MOA = 1 click) and then sight in for 200yds.

a little bit of change btwn the 2 bruddahs but not much. especially when ya shoot alot of 147fmj's making the transition to 168gr federals just brings groups tighter if not touching if not going thru same hole.

both of my children are fed after birthing and teething and massaging..........a strict diet of federals. unless just wasting ammo on rock squirrals or rocks.

if ya want to outshoot yer buddies next time at range do the following.........

shoot round. let barrel cool with WET shoprag from 6 packer ice chest. swab barrel with sweets 7.62. use another patch to dry. then use patch with light lube of CLP. grab barrel if cool to touch then shoot another round. repeat.

since its almost elk season for us everything at my house has focused to preparing gear. and as we all know after doing this for awhile we accumulate a ton of crap. soooooooooooo........this year...

each gun has its own case. hard or soft cases can alternate if need be., all dependant on terrain and weather. each case is self sufficient for that weapon. ie. each case has its own breakdown cleaning kits. socom has its GI cleaning kit in buttstock. all swabs/bore cleaner/lubricants/5-rd hunting mags,spare gizmos etc., specific to gun enclosed in each case. ammo enclosed in each case. all barrels either have factory muzzle cap or i cut fingers off of surgical gloves and sealed barrels to avoid mud/dirt/dust/rain/snow from entering barrels.

each weapon lubed with MIL.COMM lubricants to avoid dirt /dust retention on actions.

all sidearms have their own specific cases(rugs) with cleaning kits spares etc.

happiness is making room in your safe and finally getting it organized.

[charleskieffner]

check out mcmillians folding stock mcmillian.com and click on M1-A. wayyyy coooler than other mfgs. fits socoms. you may be a traditionalist and long full stocks but folding stocks sure are handling packing in vehicles or quads.

[Zef]

I have to say than I'm impressed....!

[Mo_Gearhead]

Your bench is about one-eighth bubble off level ... (shim).

[VINMAN]

Schweeeeeeet!!!!!

[charleskieffner]

well finally got done with final out QC on 6 weapons. (4) rifles (2) pistoles. here they are..............


the 2008 arizona ELK MEDIATION TOOLS

hk -91 by ralph smith@ rdts.com and me, w/leupold 6x fixed on hk QD mt.. note hensoldt fero z 24 illuminated mildot scope and belt case soon to be zeroed in our off time at local secret testing quarry.

marlin 1895 by me and nelson ford(thegunsmith.com) 45/70 with 325 gr hornaday zoomy zoom zoom stealth elk KEELHAULER ROUND! 3 x9 leupold on leupold QD mts. the lever is literally a ONE FINGER action, smooth as butter. it DONT GET NO BETTER!this was my younger sons 20th b-day /xmas gift.


and the tried and true "SWEEP MR OR MRS OR MISS ELK OFF THEIR FREEKING FEET" edition of a mcmillian winchester m-70 26" barrel w/muzzle break .338 ass whooper "death from afar" 2 BILLION YARD elk assassin weapon. with 4.5 x 14 x 50mm leupold scope. ammo by us and arizona ammunition jim schmidt. 250gr moly's

and the aforementioned socom as backup.


and my son will carry my hk usp compact 9mm w/night sites (hasnt graduated from .45 school yet) for personal mtn lion protection if it gets ugly. 124 jhp federals

me........trusty lightweight nelson ford edition springfield micro compact .45 w/night sights. 240 gr jhp federal hydrashocks.

and ONE (1) very nice fashionable(this season-god knows we got to look COOL) multi functional sniper drag bag with a real live honest to god REI mtn. climbing carabiner attached to the front strap for dragging with your quad thru mud and snow and rocks! YUCK YUCK!


DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT BE UNDER GUNNED FOR WHEN THE THREE (3) BULL ELKS ATTACK and the ONE (1) MTN LION TRY TO JACK US?????????

[9dreizig]

Charles, clearly you hunt in better weather than I am used to , I gave up on those stock mounted bullet holders long ago , after an afternoon in the rain/snow the cartriges look like they have battery acid on them..
Also we always just throw some duct tape over the barrel , ,did you mention surgical gloves?? what's next condoms?? LOL

[charleskieffner]

forgot to add............if everything goes to POO with the hk-91 or mcmillian .338 ass whooper like i fall off my quad three (3) times or fall down a cliff and my rifles get hit by the burlington northern/santa fe salad bowl express(100mph) and i manage to survive despite (3) scopes being broken..........................


THE HK-91 HAS 1200 METER IRON SITES!!!!!!!

so all in all...............da bull elk this year aint gonna get away easy. they can run....but they will only DIE TIRED!

[charleskieffner]

nope ran out of condoms(i wish) surgical gloves was what i had and im lazy when it comes to cleaning duck(quack) tape adhesive off of metal.

our forecast THANK GOD..........is rain/snow starting tuesday night going possibly thru sat. snow at elevations to 9000 ft. plus or minus. was starting to get worried i was gonna be hunting in a hawaiian shirt and shorts like we did on my LAST BULL ELK HUNT ELEVEN (11) YEARS AGO! same unit same spot same date same moon.

yep took us that long to get drawn again due to arizona lottery on big 10 game tags.

opening day is friday while most are nursing viscious thanksgiving hangovers and food over indulgence.

[9dreizig]

Cool we'll expect pictures!!

[lowyder993s]

+1...pics and write up a must...I hope you're only going out w/ 1 round Good Luck!!!!

[charleskieffner]

Originally Posted by lowyder993s

+1...pics and write up a must...I hope you're only going out w/ 1 round Good Luck!!!!

azgfd is held in high esteem by other game and fish depts. nationwide. they are very efficient on a budget that is not paid by state coffers. all azgfd income derived from hunt/fish tags and a small % of the arizona lottery money. they literally run their ranger vehicles til the wheels fall off or they break the frames on them.

where im leading with this is in regard to your statement " i hope yer going out with one (1) round". for all semi-autos excluding ruger 10/22's, you can only use FIVE RD (5) clips/magazines. shotguns MUST be plugged to accept (3) ROUNDS ONLY. GOD HELP YOU IF YER CAUGHT OUT IN BOONIES WITH ANYTHING MORE THAN A FIVE (5) ROUND CLIP and have ANY DEAD ANIMAL ANY SPECIES IN POSSESSION!

soooooo... the technical letter of the law is FIVE (5) rds in a semi-auto with (1) ONE IN THE PIPE for a total of SIX (6) ROUNDS. if you have a clip/magazine capable of holding more than that and yer caught..............YOUR LIFE (EMPHASIS ON WORD - LIFE) will change to POO in a matter of moments when confronted by AZGFD!!!!!! ruger 10/22's you may hunt small game with larger capacity clips remingtons and marlins also.

now if you have owned a lee enfield in .303(hell of a round) you will know it has only 10 rd magazines available for it. but since its a BOLT ACTION you may carry 10 rd clips.

using a weapon that does not offer a FIVE (5) rd clip and trying to put a block of wood to disallow more rds. added is really pushing the law to the letter and your asking for trouble.

azgfd will find us/will check us/and will have everyone with a bull tag on a computer readout sheet the ranger will check off after checking tags and weapons. they are efficient as hell and SNEAKY AS HELL!

dave pender (game ranger of the year numerous years) is based out of seligman.az., one year while i was freezing my nardos off dressed like the michelin man, wind blowing sideways at 40mph, widowmaker tree branches falling out of trees, 9 degree high temps for the day, comes driving up in a new chevy z71 wearing shorts and a hawaiian shirt the first time i met him. asked me how was it going and i explained it was too windy for a fire and im freezing my nardos off and havent seen any deer yet. he then asks me for my license and tag. now thats UNDERCOVER!

thruout the state during different seasons azgfd will set up roadside STINGS, utilizing fake stuffed remote control game. it could be anything...........elk deer pig antelope bighorn sheep whatever. game will prance around in secluded area with natural bullet backdrop. game will be very enticing. this is usually started about 5 days before a hunt opens. usually setup so unethical hunters will shoot from road or vehicle. once they unload on remote control game from their vehicle or the roadway..............azgfd descends upon them like a GREEN ENEMA WITH COCKED LOCKED MACHINE GUNS and take the bad guy unethical law breaking hunter away to jail!!!!! there are numerous videos of these stings floating out there and they are comical as hell to watch. imagine a guy with any type gun...... he sees game(any species) and takes gun out of window of truck or sitting on quad and UNLOADING on animal and the animal still running around in circles or feeding and it never goes down. guys have reloaded clips multiple times and not killed RC animal and are going WTF!!!! meanwhile azgfd is descending on him like a POO TSUNAMI! hahahahahahahahaha

i hate poachers!

2 bull elk poached in unit 10 a month ago north of ashfork, az., reward up to $8000 bucks. that would sure help out my 911 engine rebuild fund!!!!!!!

[FastDave]

all this makes me wanna skip work and go fire a round... or 200 (10 clips of 20)!!! lol

[lowyder993s]

In Wyoming a few years back, we were moving along the highway from 1 side of the unit to the other. F&G has the highway blocked as 6-7 bulls move from Blactail Butte back to the Snake River Gorge...9:30 a.m. Regs state you must be 1 mile from highway to discharge firearm. Elk cross hiway, dipschits a few cars in front pull over...in front of the F&G get out and start blasting @ the Elk. Knock down 1, wound another. Could NOT believe what I was seeing...passed back thru an hour later, those guys ALL being hauled away.
If the wx is nice, the AZ DFG runs a plane at nite to check for spotlighters.
Nothing better in December than Elk chili, cold beer and football game...I'm VERY jealous!!!