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Jesus.

All that, and it was still a razor thin margin of victory for the little guy.

your 600 votes for this lambert fellow canceled her out.

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your 600 votes for this lambert fellow canceled her out.
Nah, i got in maybe 20.
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This finale was worth watching just to see Lambert kick friggin' tail with KISS.

Now that's what i'm talking about...

As for the winner.....LOL....so much for my statistical breakdown, hahaha
Kiss? Are they still breathing? Haven't followed them since Paul Stanley was over at my sister's house to see my newborn niece. Hell, that was 25 years ago. Got to see what he looked like without the makeup years before anyone else did.
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Kiss? Are they still breathing? Haven't followed them since Paul Stanley was over at my sister's house to see my newborn niece. Hell, that was 25 years ago. Got to see what he looked like without the makeup years before anyone else did.
I wish I didn't see what he looks like now with man-boobs and gut.
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I wish I didn't see what he looks like now with man-boobs and gut.
He was cut back then, but still kinda creepy lookin'. He did get the chicks though. Reason I met him was because he was dating Donna Dixon who is one of my sis' best friends from High School......and still a stone cold "foxy lady"......party on Garth.......or was that "Dream Weaver" that was playing whenever she appeared? Whatever.

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Seriously though the result is so wrong, that it will impact the value and credibility of the AI franchise. My guess is the people who are making bags of money off of this show are already trying to figure out some way to prevent this kind of multiple voting in future.
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Huckabee should sing better..
Kris..1 CD and gone, well maybe a FORD or GM comm.
Adam..we will hear and see much more..

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Seriously though the result is so wrong, that it will impact the value and credibility of the AI franchise. My guess is the people who are making bags of money off of this show are already trying to figure out some way to prevent this kind of multiple voting in future.
Compared to the Daughtry debacle a few seasons ago, this is really nothing. Daughtry got voted off in the top 4. He's only gone on to go quadruple platinum since....

But i do agree with you. Allen, while talented, is nowhere near in the same league as Lambert vocally.

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The painted nails did him in. They don't take kindly to painted nails in Arkansas.
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The duet showed who is the better singer, but that was after the votes were in. Lambert singing with Queen - "we are the champions". Man, you cannot invent this stuff.

At the end of the day, it is a democratic process and for the most part works..
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I've never watched Idol, but I've gotten the gist of the competition from the local news shows. Somebody made a really good observation this morning: Lambert is able to perform a wide range of styles, so you 'never know what you're going to get.' Chris was apparently more predictable. Idol watchers like predictable.
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I always figured that the "voting" was essentially bogus.

The show has an inherit interest in seeing certain people stay and go. Whether it is to create an appropriate diversity mix, or to get talk shows buzzing about, can you believe XYZ was eliminated.

If Lambert is as good as some people here are claiming. His loss probably has a significant financial gain for someone. All I know is the winner has a guaranteed 1 million dollar contract, 2nd place has doors a bit more open.

Just a thought that is all. I honestly don't follow the show, maybe AT&T truely is an independant vote counter, I really don't know. I'm just guessing they aren't.
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Just a thought that is all. I honestly don't follow the show, maybe AT&T truely is an independant vote counter, I really don't know. I'm just guessing they aren't.
I think you're right about the decision going to the candidate that puts the most money in key peoples' pockets. Pretty much the way everything operates, everywhere.

I would be willing to bet that no matter what AT&T reports, the vote count takes place in the Idol producer's office.

Wasn't it Stalin who said 'It doesn't matter who votes, only who counts the votes.'
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I thought the finale was awesome as I haven't seen that many big name stars (even at the Grammys) on one show. I thought that Santana was phenomenal and Adam's performance with KISS was great too....I just wish KISS would have given him more lead-singer status instead of them hogging 70% of the vocals.
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The better musician won. Lambert is more of a crowd pleaser....
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The finale was great. I'll watch allot of it again now that I found that it DID get recorded in HD as well. Did anyone mention Carlos Santana played??!!!

Adam with the remnants of Queen was cool - a potential Freddie Mercury like front-man. Maybe John Deacon will anoint Adam worthy of performing with him and May. The KISS medley really shows what Adam can do in the future - revive old rock bands!

As noted by others, Adam's use of his aggressive scream was starting to wear on me too. Few have mentioned how his staging was different from everyone else. Was he the only one allowed to play with the lights, smoke, screens?? But just as he used them to his advantage, for the most part he used them with little variety. Que the stage - Adam enters from the back, back-lit, with or without smoke. After the song's intro, high contrast spots and the video screens get fancy. This is how I remember most of his performances. The other contestants never seemed to take advantage of anything but the stage.

Kris showed he is a performer with deep talent by playing guitar and keyboard well - it adds a lot to his impact.

A few observations regarding voting indicate how predictably unpredictable it can be:
** A lot of people don't know you can vote more than once, even big fans. Arkansas apparently got the word out.
** During the early finals voters vote for who they do not want to leave NOT who is the best.
** Judges, primarily Simon, with their comments get people to vote, or not. When he says "you are sure to be around" watch out. When he says "you are in danger" it is protective.
** When a contestant is voted off the voters for that individual will vote for someone else. Danny's votes mostly went to Kris. Archileta's margin of vote-happy tweens couldn't even overcome this effect last year as mature people were not-voted off.
** My family only votes on the final night. The vote totals reflect this trend.
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No one has said anything about bikini girl.
Nice boob job after her elimination round. She REALLY hates getting upstaged though....
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Actually I was not a fan of the boob job.

The problem with a boob job on a skinny girl is that the skin gets stretched so much the boobs end up 3 feet apart...totally weird looking IMHO.

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