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m21sniper 04-30-2009 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Ed (Post 4636206)
Good point.

And poor Daughtry now can't get any airplay; all you ever hear is Hicks on the radio.

Yep. Daughtry may have lost AI5, but he definitely won in life.

He's released something like 6 singles off his debut album thus far, he's probably one of the top 3 acts in rock right now, sales wise.

Daughtry never got the warning Lamberts fans got last night. I suspect the reason for the odd top5 format was so that his fans could get that warning. If he goes off the show early the ratings are going to take a huge hit.

m21sniper 04-30-2009 07:28 AM

WOW! Next weeks rock mentor?

http://www.zmemusic.com/wp-content/u...8/06/slash.jpg

SLASH!!!

mca 04-30-2009 07:31 AM

Unfortunately I missed the last two weeks. I was watching NJ Devils hockey :(.

Couldn't believe Adam was in the bottom two! Wow.

Too bad Axl Rose isn't sane. He would be a cool mentor.

Ah, the long lost days of Appetite for Destruction.

stomachmonkey 04-30-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4636564)
WOW! Next weeks rock mentor?

http://www.zmemusic.com/wp-content/u...8/06/slash.jpg

SLASH!!!

Looking forward to that.

Would be awesome if Adam does Welcome to the Jungle.

Me sitting in my office right now.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241106495.jpg

I had to stop dying my hair years ago, all those friggin GnR groupies chasing me down the streets was gettin old.

m21sniper 04-30-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mca (Post 4636571)
Unfortunately I missed the last two weeks. I was watching NJ Devils hockey :(.

Couldn't believe Adam was in the bottom two! Wow.

Too bad Axl Rose isn't sane. He would be a cool mentor.

Ah, the long lost days of Appetite for Destruction.

Axl STILL has it man.

Check this out off his new album, an epic ballad in the finest traditions of the November Rain trilogy, and probably my favorite new song of the last 3 years:

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Axl should have his damn head checked for not releasing this as the single off Chinese Democracy.

m21sniper 04-30-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4636605)
Me sitting in my office right now.

Rock on brother, Rock on!!!

ikarcuaso 04-30-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4636564)
WOW! Next weeks rock mentor?

http://www.zmemusic.com/wp-content/u...8/06/slash.jpg

SLASH!!!

I never really heard much from this dude (orally) until an interview on Jim Rome's radio show last year, I believe. Great interview. Very articulate, insightful, thought-provoking dude. I guess I didn't expect much after just seeing a guy with hair, a cigarette and guitar all these years. "Don't judge a book...", I guess.

mca 04-30-2009 12:10 PM

He is quite a smart guy. Especially since he was able to survive his early years - he didn't let the drug use get the best of him.

Have you guys seen Celebrity Rehab? Steven Adler was on it last season (drummer that was kicked out of GnR for alleged excessive heroin use). It was really really sad. I was rooting for the guy but he never made it. Some time in the past he nearly died due to an overdose - the result was a stroke. Now is lives with some facial paralysis. During the show he often referred to Slash as being his best friend and how much he loves the guy.

stomachmonkey 04-30-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ikarcuaso (Post 4637109)
I never really heard much from this dude (orally) until an interview on Jim Rome's radio show last year, I believe. Great interview. Very articulate, insightful, thought-provoking dude. I guess I didn't expect much after just seeing a guy with hair, a cigarette and guitar all these years. "Don't judge a book...", I guess.

It's interesting how many of these guys have real brains.

Saw Ice T about 5 or more years ago do a speech at a university. Was about the net, societies interaction with it and emergent technologies. He was very well versed and in retrospect called a lot of stuff right.

Brain May has a PHD in Astrophysics.

Jeff Skunk Baxter
is a defense consultant for several government agencies, defense contractors and NASA.

m21sniper 04-30-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4637143)
Jeff Skunk Baxter[/URL] is a defense consultant for several government agencies, defense contractors and NASA.

Dayum, now that's an impressive dude.

m21sniper 05-03-2009 01:38 AM

Red hot

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m21sniper 05-05-2009 04:13 PM

No FREAKIN' WAY!

Lambert, Whole lotta love? Led Zeppelin? (my fave band of all time) On AI?????

OMFG, SLAYED!!!

Yesssssssssssssssssss!

onewhippedpuppy 05-05-2009 04:15 PM

I gotta say, he won me over. Anybody that can do "Whole Lotta Love" like that.......wow.

stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 04:19 PM

DAMMIT you guys!!!!!

I'm in CST!!!!!!

m21sniper 05-05-2009 05:03 PM

Danny gokey was a flaming wreck. He is going to be totally reliant on his core fans dialing to their fingers bleed to survive, because he flat out sucked.

I missed adams phone number, did anyone catch it? I want to vote! Hahahaha...

stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 05:17 PM

OK, this board is kiling me.

My buddy Noah in CT just pm'd me that someone did STYX?

My wife's favorite band. Yeah I know but she is a little younger than me.

stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4646964)
Danny gokey was a flaming wreck. He is going to be totally reliant on his core fans dialing to their fingers bleed to survive, because he flat out sucked.

I missed adams phone number, did anyone catch it? I want to vote! Hahahaha...

I'll post it after I watch. Tivo'd due to gettin kids to bed so it'll be a bit.

m21sniper 05-05-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4647004)
OK, this board is kiling me.

My buddy Noah in CT just pm'd me that someone did STYX?

My wife's favorite band. Yeah I know but she is a little younger than me.

Styx Renegade. Been done before actually, by Daughtry on Season 5.

He was much better too. Tonight Chris and Danny did it as a duet. It was not very good.

Here's the Daughtry version:

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Not great, but quite solid.

Thanks StomachMonkey, i'll hang here and wait for it.

stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 05:48 PM

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stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 05:49 PM

Allyson doing Janis.

This could be good.

m21sniper 05-05-2009 06:16 PM

Redial is my friend. ;)

kaisen 05-05-2009 06:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT10YK0c92E

stomachmonkey 05-05-2009 06:34 PM

The Adam/Allyson duet was good. Definitely beat Kris/Danny.

And WTF is up with that idiot Kara?

She would have recommended some "early" Aerosmith?

Uhm, sweetie, Dream On was on the FIRST ALBUM. It was Aerosmiths FIRST HIT.

nostatic 05-05-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 4647135)


He has chops to be sure, but frankly I just don't feel it. Same thing with his version of "Born to be Wild." He hits the notes, but I just don't believe he groks what he's singing.

Gordo2 05-05-2009 08:37 PM

Unimpressed
 
To me, he continues to come off as an actor with a great voice who's trying to act like a star - his stage presence just comes off fake.

Gordo

m21sniper 05-05-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4647184)
He has chops to be sure, but frankly I just don't feel it. Same thing with his version of "Born to be Wild." He hits the notes, but I just don't believe he groks what he's singing.

I feel it big time.

Music is like that though. You either feel it or you don't.

However, AI is a singing contest, and he is clearly the best singer on that show, perhaps ever. As such, he should definitely win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordo2 (Post 4647353)
To me, he continues to come off as an actor with a great voice who's trying to act like a star - his stage presence just comes off fake.

Gordo

A lot of people thought freddie mercury was too theatrical, not every one "got him" either. It's just the nature of music.

To me, i see a superstar about to explode onto the scene, and regardless of our opinions here, it's pretty certain that's exactly what's going to happen.

JavaBrewer 05-05-2009 08:55 PM

IMO the best AI product thus far is, hands down, Carrie Underwood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8khHqMntkbQ

Her first audition on AI

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m21sniper 05-05-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmoolenaar (Post 4647377)
IMO the best AI product thus far is, hands down, Carrie Underwood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8khHqMntkbQ

I really like Carrie, but IMO Kelly was much more versataile and talented.

The show is an absolute star factory though- regardless of your personal favorite.

After tonight i have to say either chris or danny is toast. Danny was flat out terrible. I mean that last note on dream on was a total abomonation. Horrible.

Chris was ok, but in top 4, ok aint getting it done. It will be either him or Gokey gone. If Gokey goes, then Lambert is a shoe in.

nostatic 05-05-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4647368)

However, AI is a singing contest, and he is clearly the best singer on that show, perhaps ever.

Best singer ever?

That is a bad joke. He is good, might be best on the show (don't know, I don't watch it) but he is nowhere near in the league of dozens of singers. Compared to any number of guys he has zero soul. All show, no go.

But if you dig him, buy his albums when they come out. I'll pass. And I wouldn't mention Freddie Mercury in the same breath with this guy.

nostatic 05-05-2009 10:02 PM

As a point of reference, I would submit:

Robert Plant
Paul Rodgers
Ian Gillan
Chris Cornell
Roy Orbison
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Roger Daltry
Smokey Robinson
Burton Cummings
Brad Delp
David Clayton-Thomas
David Bowie
Philip Bailey
Lou Gramm
Rod Stewart
James Dewar
and on and on

Maybe Lambert will grow into an artist. Right now he seems like a technician and actor who doesn't really believe what he's singing.

URY914 05-06-2009 04:11 AM

This thread's gay factor is beginning to climb.

m21sniper 05-06-2009 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4647430)
Best singer ever?

That is a bad joke. He is good, might be best on the show (don't know, I don't watch it) but he is nowhere near in the league of dozens of singers. Compared to any number of guys he has zero soul. All show, no go.

But if you dig him, buy his albums when they come out. I'll pass. And I wouldn't mention Freddie Mercury in the same breath with this guy.

To you he has no soul. Millions of others would differ greatly. Music is a matter of personal taste, there is no right or wrong really. Some people love Bob Dylan, i don't think he could sing his way out of a wet paper bag. All a matter of taste.

The four judges on the show, including the legendarily harsh Simon Cowell, all love this guy. Love him. He's gotten the only Cowell standing O in 8 seasons of AI. Hard to argue with that, but apparently not for some. ;)

Also, i did not say Lambert was the greatest singer ever, i said he was the greatest singer on AI ever- perhaps.

There is a vast difference.

I think the greatest singers i have ever heard are Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston in their respective primes. Without doubt.

m21sniper 05-06-2009 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4647448)
As a point of reference, I would submit:

Robert Plant
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Roger Daltry
Smokey Robinson

Those are the only ones in Lamberts league to me.

And by the way, Smokey Robinson gave him a standing ovation this season too when he was a mentor in an earlier episode.

Amusing that one of your listed icons himself has shown Lambert great respect, where you show him little. Hehehe. But again, it's all quite subjective.

BTW: Robert Plant is probably my favorite rock vocalist ever. Led Zeppelin is probably my favorite band of all time.

Dottore 05-06-2009 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4647430)

Compared to any number of guys he has zero soul. All show, no go.

...well he is under 30 after all...

mca 05-06-2009 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4646851)
No FREAKIN' WAY!

Lambert, Whole lotta love? Led Zeppelin? (my fave band of all time) On AI?????

OMFG, SLAYED!!!

Yesssssssssssssssssss!

Zepp is my all time favorite band. I always wondered if AI would ever be able to afford the royalties that come with playing a Zepp song.

Adam was OK at best in my opinion. I have a hard time liking it b/c I compare it to the original.

OH and what a WEAK guitar solo! That sucked.

m21sniper 05-06-2009 06:09 AM

Well anyone would pale in comparison to the god that is Jimmy Page.

Of course i've seen many here slam him before too, which is incomprehensible to me, but that is the nature of music.

I was hoping Slash would play guitar on the songs last night, but i guess they didn't want to shell out that kind of cash. :)

nostatic 05-06-2009 06:27 AM

I"m not slamming him. He is very good. I'm just not a slathering fanboy that is unable to see his present shortcomings.

The pop road is splattered with good and not-so-good singers who people thought was "the best". Just because the fans scream and a few paid judges stand up doesn't mean they have soul or the magic.

But as you say, response to music is an individual thing. I'll wager a guess thought that I'm not the only one that things "technically very good but feels like he's faking it."

m21sniper 05-06-2009 06:39 AM

And i'll wager a guess that i'm not the only one that thinks, "Wow, legend to be."

Just read this thread as proof of that. ;)

Seriously though, if you're not good Cowell will tell you so in quite acidic terms. Every previous contestant he has deemed to be a star in the making, has turned into exactly that.

Some of the top names in music today came out of that show, in many different genres. As i said a few posts ago, it's a star factory.

Daughtry- Rock (triple platinum)
Cook- Pop Rock (platinum)
Clarkson- Pop (2 grammys)
Underwood- Country (3 grammys)
Hudson- R&B and Acting (Grammy, Oscar)
Aiken- Broadway (I think he's won a Tony, but i'm not sure)
Sparks- Pop (Double platinum)

There are others, but these ones are all pretty huge in their respective fields.

Netspeed 05-06-2009 09:29 AM

I think Adam is an exceptional performer but I feel his weakness is his theatrics. He looks and acts the part, but isn't a true rocker. After watching him and Allison in that duet, I think she could kick his *** in a bar fight! ;)

m21sniper 05-06-2009 10:25 AM

A lot of people hated elvis the pelvis for his theatrics too.

All subjective. I like Lambert(and Elvis) in pretty much every non-sexual way you can like a performer.


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