Why is air fare cheaper than the bus?

[m21sniper]

I've been online checking some prices, and my preferred air carrier is cheaper round trip (about 10 days prebooked) than not only the train, but the bus as well. (from Raleigh Durham to Philly and back)

What gives?

[unclebilly]

You have to pay an entertainment tax for riding the bus. They charge exra for all of the 'people watching' you get to partake in...

It has been a dream of mine to take the greyhound to Memphis. I'd buy an old guitar, sit in the back seat and learn how to play 'Mammas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys' on the way there... on the way home, I'd learn to play harmonica...

I think I'd grow out my sideburns and probably a mustache for the trip. I think I'd also try to get a velvet suit and a bowtie for the ride home.

[m21sniper]

LOL, well that was if nothing else a highly entertaining post.

Can't say i disagree with you WRT the "entertainment tax."

[vash]

it cost money to pump "hope" thru the bus vents.

[Hugh R]

I took Greyhound and Trailways when I was in the USMC, almost 40 years ago. The number of guys who want to show you their dick in the men's room at the terminals is amazing. I did two days on a bus and felt like I was born on that friggin bus.

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by vash

it cost money to pump "hope" thru the bus vents.

by "hope", you mean meth right?? Seriously, almost everyone I've ever seen at a greyhound station looked meth'd out of their minds.

[vash]

hope...

i retrofitted a bus terminal. the passengers looked like they have lost "hope" with life.

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by vash

hope...

i retrofitted a bus terminal. the passengers looked like they have lost "hope" with life.

pretty sure that's a byproduct of the meth

[m21sniper]

Actually, it may be the other way round.

[Brando]

The bus is called the "Loser Cruiser" for a good reason.

Take a plane.

[Laneco]

You can't carry a firearm any where near a commercial airplane, but they are not necessarily prohibited in a bus.

Maybe that's why you never hear of a bus sitting in the middle of the street for two hours with the doors locked closed, air conditioner off in the summer sun, and everyone forbidden to move around or use the bathroom. Some passenger will start bustin' caps! Bus riders won't take that stuff that airplane travelers put up with!

angela

[m21sniper]

Actually, while we're on that topic, is it legal to carry a firearm on a train (if you have a permit, obviously)?

[Laneco]

Transportation regulations do NOT prohibit it, but the busline, e.g. Greyhound, might prohibit it in the passenger compartment (it would then go into luggage). Need to check their rules and ask "detailed" questions about their security e.g. their boarding process. Probably the same with trains, check and go forth armed with knowledge.

Personally, I've ridden Greyhound and if I ever do again, believe me baby, I'm packin'! What an interesting cultural experience... By the way, there are MUCH worse bus companies than the hound. I'll give you a hint, if you buy a ticket on the internet and show up at a street corner - it might be a good one to avoid...

angela

[m21sniper]

I only ever rode on a Greyhound bus once, in my youth, and i had a penthouse experience with a really pretty young girl from Pittsburgh.

I honestly cannot complain.

At any rate, it really strikes me as odd that flying is cheaper than the bus or train. Why does anyone take either on long trips, when they can fly for less?

Round trip from Raleigh Durham to Philly on Air Tran is only $139 on the dates i'm looking for. Greyhound was like $150 bucks plus tax. The train was even more. I never considered using either, but i was so struck by how low Air Tran was, i decided to check the others, just for comparative purposes.

[Heel n Toe]

Bill, I wouldn't be surprised if the average cost per mile per pound of average number of riders and their baggage and average number of empty seats is more expensive for a bus than an airliner.

Think of all the stops and starts for a bus.

Once an airliner gets up to 30,000+, it's incredibly efficient at ticking off the miles.

Trains... meh, pretty much the same thing as a bus re: fuel efficiency, but AMTRAK's run by the gubmint, right?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Have any of you guys flown commercially lately? It sucks. The gap between the experience of riding the bus and the experience of flying has narrowed considerably, probably due in large part to the ridiculously low fares.

If this sounds snobbish, so be it - the only way I can even remotely stand commercial flying now is with a set of noise canceling headphones and some sort of mindless entertainment to screen out all the stupidity around me for however many hours. One of the reasons to like JetBlue and their on-board TV service. Yes, most of what's on TV is stupid too, but it's typically less obnoxious and annoying than the stupidity of the people around you in the plane, and you can usually find SOMETHING on that's marginally less mindless than the norm, enough to tolerate.

I fly fairly regularly and have noticed a perceptible trend in the last 10-or-so years. People on aircraft have gotten far more rude, pushy, belligerent, obnoxious and just plain stupid. This is in addition to them being fatter and feeling the need to schlep ever-increasing amounts of crap along with them (with the mentality of entitlement to ever-increasing amounts of overhead bin space, floor space, seat space and everything else - and if it encroaches on one's fellow passengers, too bad - the most boisterous person gets to inconvenience everyone else!)

I truly hate the experience of flying commercially now and it isn't just the "being-treated-like-cattle" attitude from the carriers, the idiotic TSA security BS, the rip-off parking prices, concession prices and everything-else prices at airports or even the thought of being "ground held" for six hours. It's being crammed in such close quarters with other people who by-in-large are increasingly more impossible to deal with and who really deserve to be "going Greyhound".

I swear the next time I get stuck next to some won't-shut-up, perptuallly fidgity and uncomfortable, "must-tell-you-her-life-story" broad who doesn't understand that my sunglasses, headphones and staring out the window are a clue that I don't want to be bothered every 30 seconds, some jackoff sideways-hat-and-baggy-pants wearing, gangsta-glorifying, ebonics-speaking douchebag with an faux-attitude, some self-important fat guy who expects everyone else to bow down and respect him because he's a successful vibrator salesman or whatever or some strung-out, stressed-out 20-something mom with four screaming brats from three different daddys in tow, I'm going to end up finding myself on a do-not-fly list. And you know what, I'd probably be okay with that - if there were any sort of viable alternative.

I will welcome increases of 50%-100% in fares to keep some of the 'low-rent-district", "should-be-riding-the-bus" crowd the hell off the airplanes.

Yeah, maybe I'm getting old and crotchety but I just hate dealing with stupid, obnoxious and rude people, and they seem to be representing an increasing percentage of the flying public - at an even greater rate than society-at-large. Given the choice of associating with such individuals, give me the idiot box, my sunglasses, noise-cancelling headphones and a window seat and let me distract myself from the reality of Stupid that surrounds me for the next several hours. That's the only way I can deal with it anymore.

[cbush]

I suppose the bus offers a niche for those not allowed to fly- no ID, etc, or those who are afraid to fly.
One of the reasons they flying experience is different now than 10/20 years ago is that much of the bus crowd does now fly.
Another thing this tells you is flying is an incredible bargain--much to the chagrin of the airlines that would like to make a profit.

[GH85Carrera]

Southwest Airlines was born beating bus prices. They could get you there a ton faster & cheaper.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I truly hate the experience of flying commercially now and it isn't just the "being-treated-like-cattle" attitude from the carriers, the idiotic TSA security BS, the rip-off parking prices, concession prices and everything-else prices at airports or even the thought of being "ground held" for six hours...And you know what, I'd probably be okay with that - if there were any sort of viable alternative.

Well, it beats flying...

[The Gaijin]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I swear the next time I get stuck next to some won't-shut-up, perptuallly fidgity and uncomfortable, "must-tell-you-her-life-story" broad who doesn't understand that my sunglasses, headphones and staring out the window are a clue that I don't want to be bothered every 30 seconds, some jackoff sideways-hat-and-baggy-pants wearing, gangsta-glorifying, ebonics-speaking douchebag with an faux-attitude, some self-important fat guy who expects everyone else to bow down and respect him because he's a successful vibrator salesman or whatever or some strung-out, stressed-out 20-something mom with four screaming brats from three different daddys in tow, I'm going to end up finding myself on a do-not-fly list...

POP Man: This is an instant classic rant. Pure internet gold. Thank you.