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			Sold my Ar 15, missing it  was going to buy a Ak, dunno some people say the Ar is better .... what say the brain trust, there are so many  guns , so little time!   
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			If you want a quality AK, get a Lancaster.  Made in the USA and all quality parts and workmanship.  If you want a cheapo beater, get a Romanian WASR.  They're well under $400 now.
		 
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			I have a Norinco MAK-90 AK variant. Its fun for making a lot of noise and making the mud fly. But its not the most accurate gun in the world. Not by a long shot. If you have any thoughts of taking it to a range and target shooting, then you should get an AR. If you just want to blast off cheap ammo and cause mayhem, get an AK. 
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			The Arsenal made in Las Vegas Milled Receivers are da bomb in AK's The Knights SR15 is da bomb in AR's But me thinks the Knights SR25 MK II in 308, with 20 inch barrel suppressed is the way to fly. 
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			The most asked question ever...   Sell something and get both so you'll know, side by side which one YOU think is the best. For me?... AR15 any day of the week. With a nice rail and some "accessories" you can't got wrong. The AK is a rough piece of crap that somehow send lots of rounds down range. Good luck hitting anything   
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   Sounds like something you'd use to poach elephants! 
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			I personally love my Colt Sporter II AR-15. I enjoy reloading .223 ammo for it and I would not want an AK, even if one was given to me. That's just my personal opinion from a Desert Storm vet who's used AR-15's (M16A1 and A2's) since 1982...
		 
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			I thought everyone has both. Jim 
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			AR-15 by a long shot...
		 
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			I have both. I like both, but they are very different approaches to the combat rifle. IMO, it is not proper to compare them as they were made for different users in different conditions, and with different criteria. 
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			None of the above. Any plain old .30-30 lever gun will out shoot either, and be one hell of a lot more useful. And fun. Get a brand new Marlin 336 for half of what you would pay even for a bottom end POS AR15, or hit the shows for a used one for even less. Winchester '94s are pretty nice, too, if you find the right one. 
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			Voted "Excellent."
		 
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			I have to disagree with you Jeff on your lever vs AR comment.  I like lots of different types of guns and own a Marlin lever in .44 mag, but for a "combat weapon", an AR-15 semi auto with several 30 round mags is going to trump a lever gun every time.  If I was in a foxhole facing multiple advancing enemy forces, I would choose my AR every time over any lever gun and I bet you would too Jeff.
		 
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  I just can't help myself - every time I see anything about these new fangled "black guns", I feel I have to interject a more traditional perspective. In all seriousness, I think for a guy who doesn't own many guns, or who has to choose between the two, the lever gun is the better choice for us civilians. Now, if one can have both, all the better... 
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 When I hunt, it is not combat. I need only to place one shot correctly and no combat rifle is ever needed. When I am in combat, I would wish for something more accurate that a AK and something with more penetration than a AR. In combat, most of your targets actually know something about cover and concealment and are not waiting for you to shoot them as they run toward you in the open. 
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			none of the above.  for my "end of days" rifle, i would like a .308.   socom 16 or some HK rig. 
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