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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5936655)

In the 50k range? I would be looking at used 997s, or a 996tt with some mods.... 50 would pick up a lightly used M3 as well.... All better cars.

He did say new. But yeah, I'd rather pay (if I was going to pay that for a car) $50k for a slightly used something else, than pay $50k for a mustang. The new mustang is thoroughly impressive performance-wise whether it's the V-6 or the V-8. It's actually pretty stunning WRT performance. The mustang beat the M3 on the track. If you can't admit that is impressive, then you're a nut.

Still, even with decent looks (I actually prefered the previous mustang body to the newest version) and stunning performance, I wouldn't have one. I don't want a car that's THAT common. The only thing around here more common than a mustang is a pickup truck, and even then, you might be hard pressed since there are so many different pickup trucks (F150, F250, dually, crew cab, Dodge, Chevy, Toyota, etc...). The F150 might beat the Mustang.

Also, I just can't see paying that much for a mustang and watching the depreciation hit. I'd much, much rather get a slightly used car that I thought was better engineered and built that had already taken the depreciation hit on someone else's watch.

All of that is irrelevant because I'm not getting ready to pay $50k for any car. The most that I've ever paid for a car was my old '88 targa, and that was less than $20k.

And what will this laguna stang cost there?

I've seen plenty of lightly used Ms around here... Lots of people buy them for the status, and are afraid to turn the ASC off. The one my folks picked up last year was that way. It has seen 100k before it really got beat on.

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Curtain Graphs - Motor Trend

Steve, the M still won in hands of a pro... Yes the new stang is fast, I'm not denying that.... I'm just saying they are still bloated, cheap interior cars, and there is no way in hell I would pay that for one.

Edited - post removed. -Z-man.

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 5930650)

Yet more sad, troubling, morose trolling from you, Paul? :(

Trolling? It's his thread...

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 5932764)

This trolling is continuing to show you as a sad, bitter laughing stock, Paul.

You can claim all you want that you're getting a huge chuckle out of it all, but it's just too transparent what is occurring.

Salvage what little bit of dignity you once had and just leave for good... sometimes it's just time to leave.

For you, that time occurred a good while back, but you seem to be the only one who didn't know.

Maybe you just pretended not to know... that's the most probable explanation.

I rather think paul is a really nice guy, and honestly, do you need to comment repeatedly in his thread calling him a troll?

Doesn't that make you the troll?

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Originally Posted by andrew15 (Post 5933076)

Out of curiosity, I took at look at the article and it states that the car has Pirelli R-Compund tires (P Zero Corsas?) Taking that into account, I'd be dissappointed with ONLY 1.02 g. Those are really sticky tires and not to be confused with a standard performance all-season or even straight up high performance summer tire.

As much as you bag on the 944, it would probalby have quite a bit better conering Gs with the same tires as it's a lighter car. On the track with my early 911 (with R-compounds) I would catch the Mustangs in the corners easily and then wait for the striaght for them to take off - then catch them again in the next complex of corners - nothing magical here, they have gobs of power, but can't corner as well.

On a seperate note, MOST normal, rational people don't actively seek out conflict on a regular basis. I understand that you were an early 911 enthusiast at one point and that time has past. Fine. You have other automotive passions? Cool. You don't like some members here? That's ok too, but you actions seem borderline demented.

Seriously Paul - maybe talk to some friends or family and see if you are missing something in you life. Trolling internet forums to antagonize marque enthusiasts at your age just seems kind of sadly pathetic.

Does it make you feel better about yourself to go out of your way to be mean?

If he is so sad, shouldn't you just ignore him?

Well?

Methinx some of those pointing fingers and using the word troll should look in the mirror.

Paul is a damn nice guy, and i would hang with him anytime. Which is more than i can say for you.

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 5933097)

Hey asshat, how many G's does your Mustang pull with your feeble arms at the wheel? We can all sit here and post specs of cars we don't own but that is just as pointless as your pathetic existence.

Go away. Again.

What's the matter? Do you have period cramps?

Some of you guys, really....

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5933225)

Wait a minute here newbie.... Before Paul took a little vacation, sometime before you even joined, he had made a habit of posting threads like these, and when I posted my honest opinion paul jumped on me as being a snob, etc... When I posted threads totally unrelated, Paul jumped on me as being young, and liberal minded b/c I am still in college and they are filling my head with nonsense ideas... When something gets posted about PCA, Paul jumps on the PCA trashing bandwagon, Paul jumps on the watercooled trashing bandwagon, etc... PCA is one of the things I truly enjoy, and have gotten a lot out of, Paul just couldn't get along with his region.

So before you jump on me, you need to brush up on Pauls history, he is a grade A crotchety old fart that needs to go play on a mustang forum....

Newbie?

I almost forgot why i left this forum to begin with. And clearly, i forgot what a group of hating trolls some of you are.

Just remember Paul:

http://jackiehollywood.files.wordpre...d97fb5861.jpeg

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5933579)

Sorry, G.... I have to vent on someone, Paul makes a nice target...

Is that what you're doing? It seems like you're just being yourself.

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Originally Posted by UconnTim97 (Post 5933949)

The funny thing in all of this for me, is that Paul tries to get a rise out of Sydney for his "entry level Porsche", when to all intents and purposes, his Mustang is an entry level muscle/sports car. This argument is illogically logical.

If this will put an end to all this, I kindly offer up my basically stock '83 944 up for a comparo against an '83 Mustang of similar stock nature. This would make for one fun track day....lol :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1301519616.jpg

carry on~

:) :) :)

Why don't you race that 1983 Mustang for what it was designed to do: 1/4 mile runs.

A 1983 Mustang GT would destroy a N/A 944 like yours, probably winning by 10 or more car lengths. Truth be told, your particular model 944 is an embarrassment to the Porsche marque when it comes to straight line acceleration. (I like 944's but the early 944 N/A models were absolute dogs)

Mustangs are not intended to be great handling cars, and that is not the demographic they are pandering to. They are muscle cars, and they are meant to go fast in a straight line, one quarter of a mile at a time.

And the young boy saying he'd rather buy a "lightly used" (LOL) M3 than a new Mustang for $50k....well if you buy a "lightly used" (LOL) Mustang you're still way ahead of the game $ wise vs the BMW.

And honestly, Paul's particular mustang is in no way "entry level."

The times posted in the article actually put this car in the 'super-car' category. Hardly anything to whinge about.

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5944300)

Mustangs are not intended to be great handling cars, and that is not the demographic they are pandering to. They are muscle cars, and they are meant to go fast in a straight line, one quarter of a mile at a time.

I wasn't aware that Laguna Seca was a drag strip. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 5944928)

I wasn't aware that Laguna Seca was a drag strip. Thanks for clearing that up.

It isn't...But back when 944's were first making their skidmarks, Mustangs were primarily a drag race car.

But today? Well, if you even pretend to have an open mind, that scenario has changed. Not only will the Boss 302 turn in impressive 1/4 mile times, it will indeed beat a M3 around Laguna Seca. Both the standard Boss 302 AND the special Laguna Seca version beat the costlier M3 around that track.

You've seen the R&T test..that is, if you bothered to read & watch before you began spewing venom. (By "you", I mean several of you...and you know who you are.) That was the Laguna Seca version, the hot Boss 302.

For a test of the standard Boss 302, including video of it on Laguna Seca...check out the motor trend piece here.

2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 First Test - Motor Trend

Those who don't want to see such tests? Hey, don't click!

Thanks, Snipe...you handle (and nail) the nasty ones better than I...SmileWavy

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5944296)

I'm not being mean - I'm actually serious. I've had extened family with some mental health problems and it seems that some of the behaviour is very similar.

I agree Paul is a nice guy and I remember his posts from when he still owned his 911. Over the last 5 years there has been a marked shift in behaviour that is harsher and more agressive - my suggestion to talk to some one was serious. If I really didn't like him, I wouldn't have made it.

AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 5945040)

It isn't...But back when 944's were first making their skidmarks, Mustangs were primarily a drag race car.

By the time the 944 came out the Mustang was all but done at the dragstrip. During that time they were being used as road race cars in IMSA GT\GTO and Trans-Am.

Your arguments will hold more water if you stick to facts instead of your revisionist history.:)

Sorry, you're right. 'Borderline demented' was probably a bit too much of an armchair diagnosis and 'sadly pathetic' was probably over the line.

To a degree I'm probably venting on Paul in the initial post I made. As anyone who deals with the situation knows, having an unstable relative can be frustrating and emotionally frustrating. When I saw the same behaviour coming from someone who used to be a valuable contributor, I went a bit over the top. In retrospect, a private PM would probably been better.

AM

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Originally Posted by NotaBRG (Post 5945168)

Cool, back to the groupe hugs. :D

Where is the "like" option when you need it? Lol. ;)

I though proof of having a mental disorder was a prerequisite before posting here?

Andrew...just watch the video on page 2 of the Motor Trend test, okay? Like you, I took psychology 101. I just don't roam around the internet telling folks they're crazy...

Best to ya anyway, since you seem so concerned about my welfare. SmileWavy

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Originally Posted by NotaBRG (Post 5945168)

Cool, back to the groupe hugs. :D

http://www.coasterfanatics.com/sec_f...4716_vghug.jpg