One in Five not fit to Drive

[masraum]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

apples & oranges...sure, overall, I'll give youth quicker reflexes, more strength, & better eyesight...but that doesn't translate to the young being safer drivers in real traffic conditions. I think that is what the test was about...

One of the scariest drivers to me? A young female, hair usually tied in a ponytail, driving a japanese pocket rocket like she's trying to qualify for Indy...

I think the problem is the definitions of old and young. Anyone under 20 is going to suck. Mostly because of lack of experience and judgement. Well, there may be a few exceptions.

Old folks in their 70s and 80s that can barely walk and move like snails are going to be dangerous. There are plenty of older folks 60s and up who still have clear minds and relatively fit bodies. They won't be a problem.

The two big problems that I see are:

For young folks, their is no substitute or magic pill to fix lack of experience.

For older folks who have started to show lots of decrease of physical and/or mental fitness, they don't want to give up their freedom, and our society often doesn't support them the way some other societies do. Getting the keys away from someone that's older and shouldn't be driving is a lot like getting the keys away from a drunk. Often, they are willing to fight about it. Also being without will require some sort of support which can be difficult and/or expensive.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by MRM

I got one wrong too. Signal 100 feet before the turn, I put 50.

Which would be very inadequate on a road with a 55 mph speed limit.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Anyone driving a Mustang automatically sucks at the driving.

[teenerted1]

i think i got 85% 28yrs ago...i scored a 90% this time...i guess with age does come knowledge.

[ddbach]

For older folks who have started to show lots of decrease of physical and/or mental fitness, they don't want to give up their freedom, and our society often doesn't support them the way some other societies do. Getting the keys away from someone that's older and shouldn't be driving is a lot like getting the keys away from a drunk. Often, they are willing to fight about it. Also being without will require some sort of support which can be difficult and/or expensive.

I agree w/ the above. I'm on my second round of this with my dad. His doctor sent a form to the state pulling his license for dementia. The fighting was so bad we asked his doctor to let him take the drivers tests again. We all thought he'd never pass and that would give us ammo to take the car. Somehow he passed both the written and the behind the wheel. It did take him 2 tries for each with the second "written" being an oral question session rather than computerized. We asked how many tries people get before they say no more, Five He got lost for 24hrs the week before Thanksgiving so the car and keys are now 20 miles away from him. He is in senior housing with a van service to shopping, etc which he refuses to use. My sister and I take turns running errands for him and taking him out on excursions. We continue to fight about the car (think cold, dead fingers stubborn) to the point he was so mad last Friday he told me he hated me. Mom was much easier. She said, I can't see well at night anymore let's sell my car.

I got 95%. I think several of the questions could be written better.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

Like I've always said:

Lady drivers? No survivors.

Nope. Wimmins fail twice as often because they take the test twice...

"Oh, I failed! After seeing all of the answers I bet I can get them right this time!"

...30 seconds later...

"Oh, I failed again!"

:blondemoment:

[MRM]

Originally Posted by masraum

Which would be very inadequate on a road with a 55 mph speed limit.

That's a good point. I was assuming they meant the distance for in-town driving, which makes most sense from the way they worded the question. The right answer for safe driving is measured in seconds instead of feet, anyway. In town, the best way to signal is to start signaling once you've passed the last turn before the one you want to take.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by ddbach

I agree w/ the above. I'm on my second round of this with my dad. His doctor sent a form to the state pulling his license for dementia. The fighting was so bad we asked his doctor to let him take the drivers tests again. We all thought he'd never pass and that would give us ammo to take the car. Somehow he passed both the written and the behind the wheel. It did take him 2 tries for each with the second "written" being an oral question session rather than computerized. We asked how many tries people get before they say no more, Five He got lost for 24hrs the week before Thanksgiving so the car and keys are now 20 miles away from him. He is in senior housing with a van service to shopping, etc which he refuses to use. My sister and I take turns running errands for him and taking him out on excursions. We continue to fight about the car (think cold, dead fingers stubborn) to the point he was so mad last Friday he told me he hated me. Mom was much easier. She said, I can't see well at night anymore let's sell my car.

I got 95%. I think several of the questions could be written better.

Yes, I haven't had to deal with it myself, but I've seen several folks who have dealt with it. It can be very difficult and hard on the folks emotionally.

My wife's grandmother was difficult. Actually, I think they never got the keys out of her hands, but she was only an issue for a short period as she had cancer and went fairly fast.

I'm really glad, my mother just retired and moved to live a few houses down from my grandmother. My mother wasn't sure how to broach the subject of being my granny's chauffer. The funny thing is that my granny wasn't sure how to ask my mother if she would be willing to drive her around. My grandmother was overjoyed to sell off the car and rely on someone else. I think it's because she's fit and sharp at 85, but doesn't trust herself or even more so the other old folks roaming around South Florida. We got lucky. Many don't.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by MRM

In town, the best way to signal is to start signaling once you've passed the last turn before the one you want to take.

Yep, seconds is better than feet. How far back I signal definitely depends upon where I am and the traffic conditions.

[djmcmath]

80%. I answered the "yellow light" questions differently, and got them both wrong. Oh well, still passed.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by Amail

95%, *****es!
I've never seen a steady yellow light before - I had no idea what to do. Too bad they didn't list "Blare horn and burn donuts thru the intersection" as an option. I'd have much rather failed choosing that.

That's the one I missed. (And I thing they're wrong)

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by masraum

Which would be very inadequate on a road with a 55 mph speed limit.

Unless you're in a Porsche.

[MRM]

Steady yellow is what a stop light shows between green and red. It is supposed to mean "stop before entering the intersection if you can do so safely". Most people take it as their cue to speed up to get through the intersection before the yellow turns to red.

[aigel]

95%.

I gave 10 seconds for following distance. I still really don't think that 3 seconds is a safe following distance, especially considering the nationwide results on this test. Actually 3 seconds isn't a distance at all. You take one second to react - on a good day. At 60 mph you will be traveling 88 feet per seconds. Good luck stopping your non Porsche vehicle on 176 feet of road. Here in Socal this usually means a beat to hell interstate and a large SUV ...

Anyway, I am not surprised people aren't fit to drive. I am really worried about the distraction of the handhelds and other devices in the car. Often I go 70 mph on the interstate and see the person behind me following at about 1 second, looking up every 3 seconds from their lap while texting. I get the hell out of their way ASAP ...

George

[Tim Walsh]

Originally Posted by aigel

95%.

I gave 10 seconds for following distance. I still really don't think that 3 seconds is a safe following distance, especially considering the nationwide results on this test. Actually 3 seconds isn't a distance at all. You take one second to react - on a good day. At 60 mph you will be traveling 88 feet per seconds. Good luck stopping your non Porsche vehicle on 176 feet of road. Here in Socal this usually means a beat to hell interstate and a large SUV ...


George

This isn't quite the way to look at it. The minimum distance is closer to How many seconds do I need to keep in order to react to the leading vehicle's and out brake them. The only time you need to keep enough room to go from current speed to 0 between you and the car in front of you is if you're expecting them to go from the current speed to 0 instantly. On the freeway, this is exceedingly rare.

[pwd72s]

The solution is simple...once someone reaches 65, off to the euthanasia palace they go. This solves the old age entitlement federal budget problem and makes our our roads 100% accident free at the same time. Thus, no need for traffic cops...

(shoulda used green..oh well.)

[masraum]

Soylent green, baby!!!

[cstreit]

I wonder though, what the pass/fail compared to accident rate is...

I got 85%. Missed:

1. Diamond Yellow sign: I read the sign and know what it means, not the "shape"

2. Passing on the right. It was "both" though I diagree with passing on the right on the highway. Not what any of us have been taught

3. Steady Yellow: Be prepared to stop is the same thing as "stop if safe" if you are an intelligent person.

[racer]

95%. Some questions are more "State specific", such as passing on right.. On a highway in MD its completely legal. On a highway in NJ, its completely ILLegal (or it was at the time I got my license in each state)

I got mixed up at the "steady yellow at a traffic light".. i figured slow down and proceed with caution... "they" said to "stop and only proceed if safe to do so"... seems the same to me. If my "caution" told me it wasn't safe, I would stop. But it seems stopping at a yellow would cause me to get rear ended by a 20 y/o on the phone whil driving his modded mustang

[12own911]

For a woman, I scored a 90. I passed my first test with written 100%/driving 76. I missed the bus and fog light questions on this new test.