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They rented the camp ground for 4 weeks per summer for a couple of years. Owner of the campground claims SM requested the curtains be removed from the shower stalls and there were several "activities" that involved cross dressing.
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I'm wondering if McQueary and Sandusky don't have a few things in common other than football...............
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I bet when you turn up the lights on this thing you are gonna see some stuff the public won't be able to stomach. This is gonna get pretty darn creepy IMO...
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11-17-2011, 07:06 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There sure seems like a lot of prejudgement here of many folks, some of which must yet be seen to be true or not. The latest McQuery claim of stopping the act and informing the police (if true - although now the police departments suggest it is not) is but one of the examples of a leap to judgement of inadequate response by posters here. For now, this: "No one knows what the mindset was at Penn State that allowed Jerry Sandusky to exist all these years, but protecting the pristine brand of Joe “Difference Maker” Paterno is certainly a possibility." from It’s time to stop deifying college coaches - College Football - Rivals.com is the most accurate assessment of the known facts.
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I get the whole due process and fair trial and what not. Ya ya ya ...
The whole 'mind-set' argument is just good fodder for the defense. Frankly I think it is bullshyt. Of course we all know what we would do in a situation that required action. The fact that someone doesn't do what we all know to be the right thing suggests that they are hiding something or have a vested interest in the outcome. That technique is used to provide a sliver of doubt so that you can get an acquittal. Its not pre-judgment it is judgment. Check your gut on this. The chances of this guy being clean and that Sandusky is innocent don't feel right for a reason. The gut is right more than it is wrong.
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Somebody, maybe many somebodies are to blame. We just don't know who did what. And frankly it seems to me, it is just as likely that JoePa handed this off because he didn't know what to do with accusing his neighbor and longtime assistant, as it is that he was trying to protect himself/legacy. Let's face it, the guy is old and may not have much more together than a game plan with the same 20 plays from 20yrs ago....
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Was discussing this at work.....what brought this case out of the dead all of the sudden? I heard it was a post on a forum like this....anyone know?
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This type of thing was bound to happen.
Bernie Fine Scandal: Syracuse Coach Placed on Leave Amid Child Molestation Accusations - ABC News |
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As many have said, this will get much worse as the story unfolds. Sandusky could be in the same conversation as Dahmer and Gacey. But the thing is, those 2 whackos essentially worked alone. Sandusky had his own "support team" from Paterno on down. I'm not saying they knew the depth of his psychosis. but they certainly ( unknowingly and unwillingly ) facilitated his actions for decades. He pulled the wool over their eyes and pulled it well. However, investigators and PSU staff knew enough to intervene many years ago. They didn't. Knee jerk presumptions are rampant. ( yes, I know the definition of irony )
Sandusky admitted to Costas on national tv, lawyer in attendance, that he showered with young boys. Also that his genitals touched them. Not a presumption there, just repeating what he said. If that makes me an asshat, so be it.
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You're not an asshat, Don. You're just prioritizing silly things like ethics, morality, and upstanding behavior ahead of rooting for a particular football team. Clearly something is wrong with you.
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There not even that great a team/prgram or school! I mean if it was Notre Dame or A&M then that would be a different story...
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Sandusky finally re-arrested and in jail with a 250k bail.
He's inmate 11-1709 and was wearing a Penn State jacket as he was taken in. More than 50 charges including six 1st degree felonies.
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