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I got the flu shot and did not get the flu because of it or after it. I am a believer. My wife and daughter don't get it. They are over 21 so I cannot force them....

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i did. because i am literally forced to do so in order to maintain my employment. it is, IMO, a scam. note how the flu shot has incrementally been made to be more mandatory since the early 1990's. someone is making a lot of money off the mandatory requirements for flu shots.
OK, tell us all why it is not protective.
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do your own research. as that is the only way you will be convinced.
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Old 01-04-2014, 01:25 PM
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The flu is no fun. A lot of people will tell you they have the flu when, what they really have, is a bad cold. A real case of the flu is a different ballgame altogether.

The shot is covered at 100% under our insurance via the CVS that's .25 mile from my house. Easy decision.
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OK my ans will make you think I am a LOONY TOONS,
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What ever the govt gives you, makes you do, take- is to THEIR benefit !
On the forefront, - who what /who gets the kick back from said drug? HMmmmmm
Who payed for it?
Where in the constitution does it say "forced medicine" ? (That right there OUGHT to piss ya off)
Next- any doc on here will tell you can not immune a virus. If they could the cold would be gone , Aids gone and a host of other diseases !
Next. Whats it really all about? !
If they willing would force radiation poisoning on its citizens (1940s) Dodge agent Orange, and a bunch of other stuff...i think it might be NAIVE to swallow this one hook line sinker.
Your own thinking capability should be at booting you in your own arse right NOW !
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OK my ans will make you think I am a LOONY TOONS,
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What ever the govt gives you, makes you do, take- is to THEIR benefit !
On the forefront, - who what /who gets the kick back from said drug? HMmmmmm
Who payed for it?
Where in the constitution does it say "forced medicine" ? (That right there OUGHT to piss ya off)
Next- any doc on here will tell you can not immune a virus. If they could the cold would be gone , Aids gone and a host of other diseases !
Next. Whats it really all about? !
If they willing would force radiation poisoning on its citizens (1940s) Dodge agent Orange, and a bunch of other stuff...i think it might be NAIVE to swallow this one hook line sinker.
Your own thinking capability should be at booting you in your own arse right NOW !
any time an issue becomes politicized, i am suspicious. its all about money.
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No way...never will. If my job requires me to have flu shots then I'd quit. If the police state makes it a law then I'd move. No...I'm not afraid of needles!

I believe that flu vaccines contain toxic or hazardous ingredients that does more harm in the long term than good. Plus there are hundreds if not thousands of different stains of flu virus so it's a crap shoot to target the strain of virus.

I find it amazing how most folks buy into this stuff. No thanks.


Here's a video of one victim who had a bad reaction to the flu shot.

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I'm old enough to get senior discounts so I got the shot.
Wife refuses and she works with the public.
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Shorter Dick....Not true, We have a daughter with C.F. and we are told to by her Dr. 19 years of flu shots and 100% happy with our choice.
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OK, tell us all why it is not protective.
shouldn't you be getting someone to change your battery.
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Interesting reading for some of you

In the past 100 years.. the Flu has killed millions....

1918... and those pesky other pandemics...

The source you love to hate gives minimal mortality for the Flu (US mortality)

NPR

The statistics can be spun in many ways.....Who would go with there are less flu deaths because less people get vaccines?

Or perhaps that more people get flu vaccines therefore more people don't get the flu virus?

We live in a giant petri dish, and are exposed to many potential avenues that viruses gain access
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The Spanish flu could arise again at any given moment, no vaccine for it.
( Or something worse )
That just shows ya .....What good is a flu shot?
They had no idea where it came from, where it went, or why
It hit the strongest of the population.
weird for sure.
No on is any smarter for it..but we walk around all cocky about a flu shot that is little more then a
placebo , a feel good action.
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Anyone who is vaguely at risk (older, immunocompromised) and doesn't get the shot is tempting fate. The whole conspiracy theory is rather mis-placed as there are far worse things about the govt to worry about. Virulent flu strains kill, and if they don't, you may wish they did while you're sick. The shot isn't perfect but it increases your odds of either missing it or having a mild case.

Seat belts, air bags, and crumple zones are conspiracies as well. Silly to use those precautions...
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Sho me the money.........where have they helped?
What can be done about the Spanish Influenza or something like it if its on the mail?
virus strains mutate faster then they can be addressed......
Whats the point in a antiquated shot ?
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Sho me the money.........where have they helped?
What can be done about the Spanish Influenza or something like it if its on the mail?
virus strains mutate faster then they can be addressed......
Whats the point in a antiquated shot ?
Do you believe in science? Virology isn't voodoo. Can we defeat every virus? No. Can we prep a human immune system to better fight certain strains? Yes.

If you want to get worried and incensed, ponder the amount of antibiotics that are put in animal feed every year. And arguably the amount of topical antibacterial so that are currently in use. The flu shot has significant upside for many and very little downside (with rare exceptions). That is in marked contrast to antibiotic misuse by humans.
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Yes, free through my employer and I have never had an adverse reaction so.... why not?
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I have it every year and force the family too. I had the flu so bad about 10 years ago for 2 weeks straight that I thought I'm going to die. Most miserable I have ever felt in my life. I can only imagine catching that when you aren't young and strong ...

I call BS on the adverse reactions and getting the flu from the shot. Even if there are cases, chances of dying from the flu (even as a healthy adult) are orders of magnitude higher than a reaction leaving you sick.

Frankly, I get upset when people bash medicine, science and engineering and want to go back to nature after we worked so hard to get where we are today. Life expectancies of 75+ years in most first world countries. It must have to do with all the evil that science and engineering has brought to us ... I invite all the nay sayers to move to the third world and quit theorizing from behind their keyboards, relying on everyone else around them keeping up to date on their vaccinations.

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