Yet another rant thread: WTF is wrong with 18-25 year-olds

[VINMAN]

Jerry, your kids are a rarity. Congratulations on a great job raising them.

Shawn's scenario is all too common unfortunately. It scares me when I see these same kids coming into the fire service. It's not the place to have a crappy attitude that most of these kids have.


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[targa911S]

I used to have to walk 6 miles n the snow to go to school, and we liked it.........you guys are sounding like my parents when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan. It's a matter of attrition, the ones to finally "get it" will do well. the others will be whining about minimum wage. Raise your kids with respect for authority and a good work ethic and they will succeed. Probably own a Porsche some day even..

[doug_porsche]

As GS said:

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by targa911S

. It's a matter of attrition, the ones to finally "get it" will do well. the others will be whining about minimum wage. .

The problem is that the good, hard working people who have work ethic and drive are paying for all the lazy losers who can't seem to find or hold a job. This day and age, most workers will take the full 3 years of unemployment before they take a minimum wage job, even if it means food stamps, WIC, or EBT to buy thier groceries while the roll of bills in thier pocket pays for the beer and cigs.

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by doug_porsche

Just out of curiosity.

I recently heard an NPR story on the number of times HR gets a call/letter from the parents of a 20something applicant telling the HR people how big of a mistake they made by not hiring their brilliant, hard working, prize of a child.

Has this happened to you?

It happened to my father with some of his grad students. Apparently the grades their snowflakes earned wasn't good enough. I was embarrassed on their behalf.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

The problem is that the good, hard working people who have work ethic and drive are paying for all the lazy losers who can't seem to find or hold a job. This day and age, most workers will take the full 3 years of unemployment before they take a minimum wage job, even if it means food stamps, WIC, or EBT to buy thier groceries while the roll of bills in thier pocket pays for the beer and cigs.

and how is that different than it always has been? The lazy will always be lazy..

[JD159]

Strange. I'm 23 and I would work hard for you. The best gift you can give your kid's is an unreliable sports car. My dad bought my 944. I paid for the repairs. I couldn't afford the repairs, so I learned to fix it myself. That taught me a lot about money and hard work.

Nothing is wrong with US. Everything is wrong with society. I think it is social networking and cell phones. Bad for the brain.

BPU699 hit the nail on the head as well.

[Scott Douglas]

This is something I got from my Aunt in an email. It might help explain what is going on...


40 something % of the people are too dependent on the government. They have learned to work the system.

A Ford Dealer's Report - From Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook - True story yesterday at the dealership.


"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.

As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.

He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

She said well I'm really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent.
Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her phone.

That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.

Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work.

If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.

Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people?

Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month.

Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

[Taz's Master]

What is the reward for doing good work?

The opportunity to do more good work.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Sorry gents, but the problem started way before this generation. I don't think there are a bunch of 20-somethings in Washington passing increasingly liberal social welfare policy. Ironically it's the "get off my lawn" generation that created this problem. Lazy people have existed forever, today it's just easier to suckle up to the government teat.

[GH85Carrera]

My wife told me that at the University where she works at one 23 year old was applying for a student job and he brought his mother along to do all the talking. Mom got upset when they asked her to go sit in the hall while they interview the applicant.

They get parents sending a note to the office all the time asking for their precious snowflake 20 something be excused from work that day because they are sick. They must be so sick they can't even pick up the phone and call their supervisor to tell them they are sick. Much of that is anal glaucoma, they can't see their ass getting out of bed and going to work.

[red-beard]

Why Generation Y Yuppies Are Unhappy | Wait But Why

[gacook]

It is the job of all of us who are parents to raise our kids to NOT be like this. If your kid's lazy, look in the mirror and figure out what you did wrong, and how you can fix it.

[Ayles]

What about all those slacker genx ers! What an overblown notion that was. I assume in time we will find that the negative gen y attributes are overblown as well.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

This is something I got from my Aunt in an email. It might help explain what is going on...


40 something % of the people are too dependent on the government. They have learned to work the system.

A Ford Dealer's Report - From Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook - True story yesterday at the dealership.


"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.

As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.

He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

She said well I'm really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent.
Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her phone.

That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.

Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work.

If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.

Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people?

Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month.

Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

Chain email from 2012.
snopes.com: A Ford Dealer's Report

I had a 20-something borrow money from me a few years ago, and I ran around trying to get him work to get me paid back. He worked at a Porsche parts retailer for a while and did spectacularly well - top salesman - when he showed up. Which was less and less of the time. I tried to get him work with a contractor friend, and the first question my friend asked was 'is he white?' I said yes. He said: 'I don't hire white kids. They're all on drugs.'

[ckelly78z]

Maybe this generation of lazy slackers will figure out that Momma isn't there any more to give them stuff, and they actually have to get a job to make money, to afford things. This isn't likely with the government programs coddling everyone who has a "disability".

I think the thing that makes me mad is that 2 years ago, I was in a bad traffic accident when someone plowed into me at 70 mph after blowing a stop sign, It took me 5 months to learn to walk again after 17 broken bones, but I never used the handicap spot at the store, or scooted around on a "fat" scooter, or even had it cross my mind to try to get some sort of disability payment.

My wife has Fibromyalgia so bad sometimes that she can't hardly move, but still works hard everyday as a site developer/engineer for a house builder. Many of her friends believe she should quit work and be disabled. I'm sure if she did quit, so would her body and she would be a vegatable.

[onewhippedpuppy]

What about all those slacker genx ers! What an overblown notion that was. I assume in time we will find that the negative gen y attributes are overblown as well.

Yup. To the older generation, the kids are always a bunch of lazy slackers. I was born in 1980, so I think that makes me part of Gen X. I quickly rose to management positions by out working most of my peers, including those that were my seniors. This was after I worked my way to an engineering degree with a full time job and a wife and kid. But yeah, we're all lazy.....

[gprsh924]

One of these threads pops up every weeks. The "kids" are always lazy slackers. I bunch of my peers are losers. And an even bigger bunch are incredibly smart, hard working and talented. Same as it ever was.

This gen - y slacker is crossing hour 48 of work for the week. And I'm closing on a house soon...3 bedrooms, 2 baths in Lincoln Park...slacker.

[craigster59]

The funny thing is, the majority of opinions being posted is by middle age white guys who are supposed to be working, not browsing Porsche forums on the internet on company time!!

[nzporsche944s2]

Originally Posted by widebody911

I don't think 25 is the cutoff. I know someone in their mid 30's who is unemployed yet turned down a job offer @ $65k because they "just can't do the 9 to 5 thing"

^^ This!

It happened to me just this week.

I employed a 29yo girl to do Customer Service at $60k p.a. We went through the full recruitment process, reference checks, police checks, medical and drug test, aptitude testing. All ok

At the final interview when we were ready to offer her the role we even introduced her to the staff she would be working with etc.

She signed the contract with the usual "really excited about the opportunity" comments

She turns up on Monday this week totally unethusiastic. Mopes through the day of training and then sends an email on Monday night to our HR Manager saying she won't be in Tuesday because she has decided it's not what she wanted to do and she wanted to further her career....
There is no way the role was misrepresented.

WTF? It's $60k for Customer Services. Easy desk based work.

Now I'm dealing with HR on the employee termination forms (yes, even after 1 day there is still a process), email account deletion etc on top of still trying to find another person to fill the role...