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Exactly.

The 2 girls in the background look like they just laid their hands on him.

Then these 2 kids came up and looked to me like they were looking for an opening to hit him. One guy, cop or not surrounded by 4 brazen teens, could certainly cause trouble for him. It wouldn't take much for him to end up on the ground. Look how close the one kids foot is to the cops.
As I asked Vin.

You are OK with the cop chasing down a teenage girl and wrestling her to the ground for what?

This guy had zero control of the situation, none, not a ****ing clue what he was doing and from seven and a half minutes of video appears to have done more to escalate it than anyone else.

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Old 06-08-2015, 07:54 PM
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Obviously you guys were all there, so I trust your judgement of the situation. Perhaps some of you Monday morning quarterbacks should give law enforcement a shot? Because it's EASY, right?
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:10 PM
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Obviously you guys were all there, so I trust your judgement of the situation. Perhaps some of you Monday morning quarterbacks should give law enforcement a shot? Because it's EASY, right?
This guy was there.

15-Year-Old Who Videotaped McKinney Pool Party Arrests Speaks Out | CW33 NewsFix

Are you OK with how the teenage girl was treated?

Simple yes or no.

And it seems the other cop who was calmly speaking with the kids finds it easier than mini Rambo.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:32 PM
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I think there's plenty of blame to go around. The stupid kids that were manhandled were not obeying orders to disperse. If the girl had shut her mouth and gone home she would not have had a run-in with the cops. Having said that, captain america there did nothing to deescalate the situation. And wow that little cammando role was really really cool. It looks better in slow motion with some james bond music playing. Lol that guy was way amped up. The video in its present form is no more than a propaganda piece for the blacklivesmatter/all whites are racist movement. I really did not see anything racist about it. There are tweets from people living in the area stating that black kids were climbing fences to get into the pool. While there were black kids invited, the uninvited were asked to leave wherin they became mouthy. That's when the cops were called with reports that some black teens were treaspassing. So if that is the case, do you expect the cops to round up all the white folks? Also watch the video and look at who is not complying with lawful orders. And btw I would sue that cop if he treated my daughter like that - right after I grounded her for acting like a little *****. Captain america went way overboard. He's supposed to be the adult. He's supposed to be the professional.

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On another note it really is disheartening reading the responses to the video on some of these other sites. There is so much hate of white people. When I was in high school we all got along. Seems things have really gone backwards. I would be very dissappointed if my black friends of so long ago subscribed to this ****.
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See what I'm saying? It's all propaganda for racist fodder: Activists Want Black Host Who Blamed Teens For McKinney Pool Fight FIRED | The Daily Caller

This guy is black and lives in the development and was there to witness what really happened:
"Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! MediaTakeout.com posts a story showing only 7 minutes of a 30 minute ordeal, makes it racial and all the activist come a running. Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all. A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issuses [sic] that NEED our attention other flights of made up make believe causes."

And from an activist: “Don’t listen to this fool’s show,” Facebook user Tracy Price-Thompson wrote on Embry’s page. “Petition to have it cancelled and taken off the air. But wait, he’s not engaging Blacks as his audience anyway. He’s pandering to whites, eating crow and shucking and jiving to please those who will never accept him.”

So an upstanding black guy calls it and the racists blacks call him an uncle tom.

And it was reported that it was a DJ that put an invitation on Facebook to come to the party, not the host of the actual party. So - I would be suing that idiot as well. God people are becoming dumber by the minute.
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Mini Rambo way outta line....let's give credit to the two good cops that rush him and get him to put his gun away. They deserve a commendation.
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My 2˘:

There is pretty much no one who was "in the right" in this situation. The cop probably shouldn't have drawn his gun, but maybe the girl did deserve to be restrained. We just don't know. I'm skeptical of the video, as the group of teens may have been coordinated (to some degree) the filming.

Michael Moore was famous for swearing at people, throwing stuff, and getting in people's faces. Once he had them good and mad, then he'd start filming and act perfectly calm and reasonable. This was done to make the other side look irrational and angry. We don't know what these teens were doing just before the camera was rolling, and the person filming may have just had to indicate that they were going to start filming and the teens instantly started behaving better.

My point is, we just don't know what preceded the video, and I wouldn't put it past some kids to try to manipulate the situation to their advantage.
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test rambo for steroids now

part of the cop problem is drugs [steroids]
it makes them subject to roid rage

and far too many cops are taking roids to bulk up

when A-Rod was busted at a local miami clinic investigation
they found records of local cops also using steroids
no cops were fired as they should have been
at worse the roid using cops got a few days off
and all are still at work here

every cop who gets caught acting strange should be tested
and the ones on roids fired on the spot
zero tolerance for cops on roids
as they are a ticking bomb that can go off for any reason
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Do I think the cop was a little overzealous in his handling of that girl? Yeah, I do. Do I feel he was justified in drawing his weapon? From what I seen in the video at that moment, yes I do. Like Matt stated I wasn't there, I didn't see what led up to this, or what was going on in the peripheral. So those are the only two things I can make any judgment call on.


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Old 06-09-2015, 06:46 AM
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Care for a little more detail or would the white guilt laden posters like a little more hand wringing time?

The Full Story of The McKinney Texas, Pool Mob – Inside The “Craig Ranch” Subdivision… | The Last Refuge
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Do I feel he was justified in drawing his weapon? From what I seen in the video at that moment, yes I do.
It sounds reasonable to threaten deadly force when an approaching mob presents a disparity of force. But you should never draw if you're not prepared to really fire. And, had he fired, I can't imagine the schitstorm we'd be discussing now. Do you really want to see another "White cop shoots unarmed black teen" again as a headline? Cops need to learn how to DE-ESCALATE every situation and especially when it involves kids.

As for the story behind how the party was organized, it really has nothing to do with the cops' behavior. Main cop is gonna get fired for using profanity and drawing on unarmed kids. Right or wrong, it didn't have to happen that way and the HOA can deal with the badly behaving residents and hire more security to keep outsiders out.
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Cops need to learn how to DE-ESCALATE every situation and especially when it involves kids.
The definition of "kids" is easy to make after an incident...maybe not so easy when the crap is flying.

A few of the "kids" involved are probably no different than these fine "children"
N.Y. girl ‘barbarically’ raped by teen gangsters from El Salvador
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Care for a little more detail or would the white guilt laden posters like a little more hand wringing time?

The Full Story of The McKinney Texas, Pool Mob – Inside The “Craig Ranch” Subdivision… | The Last Refuge
Wow that is really damning. Someone in that community needs to organize a lawsuit against all activist organizations involved. Surely there's a lawyer there that would donate time for the cause. Supposedly the organizer of the pool party is section 8. I rented to a section 8 b$tch before - never again.

I do think the cop had a right to draw his weapon.
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a disgusting display by yet another pig-like officer.
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It sounds reasonable to threaten deadly force when an approaching mob presents a disparity of force. But you should never draw if you're not prepared to really fire. And, had he fired, I can't imagine the schitstorm we'd be discussing now. Do you really want to see another "White cop shoots unarmed black teen" again as a headline? Cops need to learn how to DE-ESCALATE every situation and especially when it involves kids.

As for the story behind how the party was organized, it really has nothing to do with the cops' behavior. Main cop is gonna get fired for using profanity and drawing on unarmed kids. Right or wrong, it didn't have to happen that way and the HOA can deal with the badly behaving residents and hire more security to keep outsiders out.
Thanks for saving me some typing.
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Yeah I think that's a clip from the video where the adult allegedly hit the teen, also left out by the media.

Pretty sure this is the "Tatiana" that organized the event, apparently to sell tickets to another event. It appears that everything she says in the above video is a lie. This young woman should almost certainly spend some time in jail.

Don't know exactly what happened with the girl in the bikini. Maybe she told the cop she was going to go get a few friends to bring some guns and start shooting people.
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None of us were there.

None of us have a complete picture of the entire situation.

The only thing we know is what we see and read from reports - most of which are put into some kind of biased context (IMHO).

This is one of those situations where there "seems to be" plenty of blame to go around. But since I was not there - that's just an assumption based on what I have read and seen.

Ultimately though - this forum (and many like it) will be an internet battleground for those taking sides.....

And nothing good will come of it except hurt feelings, damaged relationships, and attitude adjustments.

And the beat goes on......

I stand by everything I said in post #10 (see above)





But I have to ask.......is the kid in this photo pretending he has a weapon and is about to draw it while approaching the cop?



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Pretty sure this is the "Tatiana" that organized the event, apparently to sell tickets to another event. It appears that everything she says in the above video is a lie. This young woman should almost certainly spend some time in jail.

Don't know exactly what happened with the girl in the bikini. Maybe she told the cop she was going to go get a few friends to bring some guns and start shooting people.
That girl wouldn't lie

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You are OK with the cop chasing down a teenage girl and wrestling her to the ground for what?
Are you ok with her criminal trespass and refusal to obey lawful orders??

When we were kids, we crashed parties from time to time, snuck into hotel & apartment complex swimming pools, but when we were caught, we left, we didn't assault, cuss out or vandalise the people or property. Kids today have no respect for others or the law, so when a cop cracks their skulls open, it is a result of the kids actions and yes, they get what they deserve. As long as people keep making excuses for bad behavior, not caring about Right from Wrong, they will enable these punks.

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Wow that is really damning. Someone in that community needs to organize a lawsuit against all activist organizations involved. Surely there's a lawyer there that would donate time for the cause. Supposedly the organizer of the pool party is section 8. I rented to a section 8 b$tch before - never again.

I do think the cop had a right to draw his weapon.
Not like punks don't gang up on cops.

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