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Baz, you seem like a great guy. Your view of animals, their world, our relationship with them, and so forth is, however, exceedingly unrealistic.
Regardless of what their supporters say, pit bulls and related breeds are very dangerous animals. Their track record speaks for itself. Mankind has been very successful at breeding our domestic animals to the purposes desired. These have been bred to fight, to be unusually aggressive. It takes a very attentive owner, willing to expend a great deal of effort, to keep all of that at bay. Even then, the slightest provocation - real or perceived - and even the cuddliest family pet will kill its owner, their children, or whoever else might be within range. How long does this have to go on before folks like you acknowledge there is a problem?
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make it harder / pricey to own & have one.. those dedicated to the breeds.. will gladly have insurance... and special permit.. Rika |
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Too many people get these dogs as fashion accessories - they’re supposed to make them look tough / badass / whatever along with their tats, piercings, etc. Whatever. If someone is motivated by looking like a “tough guy” then they’re probably not the most responsible or intelligent out there to begin with which leads to exactly the problem we have - too many of these bred-to-be-aggressive dogs in the hands of the worst, least capable owners. It’s a recipe for disaster. Sure there are people out there that put enormous resources into their proper training and care, but that’s the exception rather than the rule. Mostly pit bulls are disproportionately owned by lowlifes.
I have no desire to have pit bulls around and FWIW I don’t go near anyone else’s, nor do I allow my kids to. They’re time bombs. There are plenty of other, gentler, lower-maintenance breeds that I’d far prefer personally and they don’t come with the “I’m a wanna be MMA fighter” stigma. |
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Seven pages guys? This should have lasted about a page, it's pretty simple.
Dogs are animals, not people. They don't have our mental capacity and don't use logic or reasoning, they can be taught but often default to instinct. It's why Labs tend to be great hunting retrievers and Collies are good at herding sheep. There are certain tenancies hard-coded into their DNA. Certain dogs are well known for not being good with kids, and not just Pit Bulls. If Hollywood was reality, Lassie probably would have bit Timmy a lot when he was a little kid because Collies tend to be high strung and not very tolerant of how kids typically play with dogs. Before we bought a Lab we did a lot of research, there are a LOT of dog breeds that are not recommended for families with kids. The one difference is that most of them don't have jaws that can clamp down like a vise. All dogs are great until they're not. But you shouldn't be ignorant of what they were bred for, and what their instinctual tenancies are. Again, they are ANIMALS and their behavior shouldn't be personified. If you have a Pit Bull and a baby you are a moron. Further, if you have any dog and leave it unattended with a baby, you are a moron. Our Lab is a lovable big dumb idiot eats rocks and who loves people, and has as much as growled at a human. I would NEVER leave her unattended with a baby or small child. You just never know.....
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I was in Lowe's last Saturday and a girl walks in with a pit on a leash. The girl is about 120# and the dog is about 75#. She was not holding the leash with both hands or had her hand through the loop on the end of the leash. She was clueless. It was a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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Alternatively, it was a well trained animal. When my buddy's daughter was about 50#, she handled his 125# dog just fine off leash, which is why he got that dog in the first place.
They did not call them the nanny dog for so long by mistake, and their are different versions of every breed. Suspect Baz knows much more than I about dogs .
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One day, while baby sitting her grandkids (who were often over to grandma's house), grandma said no to another cookie, and 5 yr old grandaughter threw a rage fit and hit grandma. By the end of this situation, the dog had been shot 5 times by the police, and attacked several of them while trying to make the dog release. The grandaughter spent a week in ICU, and a lifetime recovering from her mental scars. I have no use whatsoever for pitt bulls/ |
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You just never know. Big dogs have big potential to harm.
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I would trust a lab over something like a Chihuahua or other small dog with Napoleon syndrome.
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My parents always had toy Poodles, they were mean as hell. The difference is that they were hard pressed to break skin, while some of these big dogs can eat your face off.
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True, but a woman was just mauled to death by Dachshunds.
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More to it than that. I read something about the dogs being mixed breed and weighed @ 40#. Also the vet that checked them out was pro pit bull and didn't want more bad press about the breed. That's what I read, not saying it's totally accurate.
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Ironically, pit bull attacks are the least of our problems when you consider all the domestic violence happening every day and in every state.....all because of humans....not dogs.
Big picture > little picture.
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