This thread has always been here. It will remain after we are all dead and gone. This thread is like a car accident. When you see it, you can't help yourself. You have to look.

I check in once in a while to see how the threads doing, you know to catch up. Has the thread been married, divorced, has it spawned any kids.

Now that I have said hello, I can go back to my regular life. Make no mistake however, IT will always be lurking!

Why didn't I think of this earlier? I know how to get this thread moved to Off-Topic ...... I'll just invoke the dreaded "C" word!!! Works every time ....... so here's my <i><b>CAYENNE</b></i> V8 engine ......



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1077455138.jpg

Hey Rarly8,
I'll swap you a nice 350 chevy straight up for the 3.3 turbo. ;)

BTW, I don't really have a problem with this conversion, as you can see in my sig I have a Triumph with the same problem....

So the car in question does look pretty sweet!

I figure this sbc conversion thing is what they made 914's for :)

v8
 

Just because we change the engine in a 911 dosen't mean we
disrespect the car.




81 911 SC
76 911S
66 912 V8
68 912 2.2 nitrous
70 914 project car
86 fiero soon to be lambo kit car
95 Ducati 900 ss sp
78 Kawasaki Z1R
67 Ducati 250
75 Harley sporster
76 Harley Sporster
72 Harley sprint

Its kinda funny that the "purists" dis the guy for putting a V8 in a 911 but nobody screams at all the "Bastard Porsches" out there. :confused: Is it OK to create a freak one of a kind Porsche as long as you use Porsche parts? I personally like things as close to stock as possible. Concours is not easy. My lowly plain coupe is plenty of fun to drive. I don't take it to the track and I don't win stop light races with Vettes (nor do I want to try). I bought my car because I like it and IT MAKES ME HAPPY. Isn't that what a P-car is all about? Pride of ownership and enjoyment of a fine ride.

How about a V8 from a 928 . That would be a cool hot rod Slope-nz

and i thought swapping in a 908 motor would be really cool and turn some heads. or is that "ok" because it is a porsche engine and is also a flat engine? i hope you get many days of happy motoring from your car. lastly to hit upon what jack said at the beginning of this thread, it is just a car. this in its basic form is a method of transportation, four wheels and a motor. if this man wishes his four wheeled terror powered by a small block v8, good for him. bust me a vine, im out.

I really like the Porsche 911.

It is the best. MY ALL TIME FAVORITE OF PRODUCTION CARS.

BUT?

Why, oh Why, oh Why!

Do the parts cost so much?

PORSCHE has us by the proverbial throat here in the USA when it comes to parts. A 3.2 Oil dip stick that was worth 2.75$ cost me 21.50$

There are flaws in the F6 engine...

Why all the continual postings and asking for help on how to
R&R busted Head Bolts?

I think the 911 / SBC conversion is a good one.
Nice combination German & USA.

I wonder if they thought Ferry was WACKO when he started
making his little VW - Porsche conversion car, "The Tub"... Porbably.

Benson :cool: 911

I have a whipple Supercharger kit for a small block chevy. If you dont buy it from me, I might have to put on my 3.2L. But just think of all the TT's you'll get to see in the mirror.

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Dennis - that SBC is worth about as much as the K27-7200 tubo on my 930 engine. That's a fair swap.
Hard to believe I was soooooo close to a 911/V8. I had located a complete kit previously installed. Sold out from under me at the last minute. Regrets? I'll never know. I've got stupid money in the 3.3T so there is no going back. I do know I'd give about anything to obliterate my 13" tires from a standing start (w/ 930 tranny). It's difficult to get used to frying tires from a roll at the top of second gear. Turbos are a different animal all right.

How much you want for the whipple? My old steet machine keeps callin' my name. Every time I look at 'er I smell burning rubber, hear the engine rumble and feel the distant memory of raw torque.

This thread involves pulling a flat 6 out of a 911, and i don't like that.

This thread had pictures of a 914, and i'd like to set mine on fire.

This thread involves chevrolet power, and I've got Chrysler muscle cars and a Mustang 5.0 for a daily driver.

Therefore, I believe it is my moral and legal obligation to hate this entire thread.

I don't make the rules...

damn was that a fun 45 minutes' worth of reading, though. You'll have to excuse me for now, though, as I've got a couple more bottles of Hai-Karate to dump down the toilet. Shh!

-Doug

rarly...there's never a regret when it comes to a V8..

I got the scooby motor BTW...

gotta call kennedy for the adapter plate.

sjd

One reason people don't go the 928 route in the 911 with the timing belt issues aside is the 928 motor is a pretty heavy beast. I don't know if it will fit either as it is pretty wide to accomodate the overhead cams and still keep the nose of the car low. I almost did it in a 914 once but another local guy beat me to it.

Geoff

Chev SB into 928 is relatively common over here. Installing a 928 V8 in a 911 would defeat the purpose of the conversion (cheepo engine install).

I had a gear-driven warm 327 in a Jaguar once. Sounded like the Ford Mercury Stallone drove in "The Cobra".

Some madman in NZ has an SBC in an old Mini. There was a street driven Holden Ute over here with TWO of them (one in the front, one in the rear - both of them supercharged) I think it was called BLOBAK.

Ok, so Im ready to convert the 327 SBC to EFI. Looks like my easiest and most cost effective is Edelbrock. Ive considered a TEC-3 if I can find a good price. Last resort is to Frankenstein a bunch of GM and aftermarket parts to make a GM setup. Any suggestions? (yes another 911 swap) Gotta love G's!!!

That CAYENNE 4.5 V-8 looks pretty familiar.

Yep!! It looks a lot like the Corvette Engines of the late 80's. Especiallly the CORVETTE 350 LT-1 TPI. There it is in a Porsche. They copied that cool looking TPI (Tuned Port Injection) from a CORVETTE. I like the USA / German combination.


Benson
:cool:

Hey, does it have to be a V8??

for those who missed it last time, this time in appropriate thread: :D :D :D


http://project911.luminasweden.com/l...s/167_6737.jpg

Nope. See him here.

Boy, Swamp Monster's last post was a doosy...not to get off topic but...:D

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?postid=1048052#post1048052

Had to post a pre-efi pic. Got a bracket yet for that Saab?
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John......I thought that you were going to sell you car at one point. Are you still in St Augustine? Love to see your ride.
H20911
in Daytona beach

Yupp...we got CAD-drawings of engine and made our own. It's standard GM bolt pattern so that opens certain posibilities later on.

Sure. I lost interest in selling after a few shows and great joy rides. Write me at gidyup2@aug.com I'm still in St Aug.

<i>"It looks a lot like the Corvette Engines of the late 80's. Especiallly the CORVETTE 350 LT-1 TPI. There it is in a Porsche. They copied that cool looking TPI (Tuned Port Injection) from a CORVETTE. I like the USA / German combination."</i>

I think it's more a derivative of the 928 engine's induction system from the 70's .... maybe GM got the idea there .....

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Hey beepbeep!

You wouldn't be using PHOTO SHOP or something like it would you?
Give us a web sight so we can check out this conversion.

The 350 SBC has won a ton of races.

Hey gidyup2!

How is the 911 350 going for you. Any comments you would have on service, maintenance and miles you have meen driving
would be nice.


Benson:cool:

Yeah, but a chevy motor still doesn't belong in a porscha.

A "Bastard Porsche" is still a Porsche.

A "Bastard Porsche" with a V8 conversion is just a "Bastard".

Got to find him a Chevy chat group where he can feel comfortable!! Imagine all the anglophiles who got onto Carroll for his blastphemy!

Its actually a 327 that winds up to a little over 6grand. Runs very smooth with nearly the same drive/handling as before. However, more ass end into hard turns. Pick-up, well, you've heard. The regular maintenance, oil, filter and such is a snap. The exhaust gaskets, purging the cooling system 1000 times after flushing or opening the system is a pain. Recalibrating the gauges pretty straight forward. My one wish is that I replaced 5th with a taller gear. Winds out at 3000 doing 70 or so. As far as cooling temps, I run a steady 220, from high compression and slightly restrictive exhaust(Dynomax). Everything is holding up great under my usual abuse. I have to wind the thing out every time I take it out. The tranny seems to be fine with only a slight gear sound in 2nd.
A/C, EFI, taller 5th, 4 more Blaupunkt Speakers, DVD and Im finished.

BUMP... !!!

;) ;)

(the "old timers" here will understand!)

HAAAAA!
Good move!

As far as im concerned.. If you can build it, DO IT!

There's a guy on the 914 board who put a Euro 928 motor in his 914 that documented the whole process... quite a lot of work, but bad ass...

I wonder if there should be a separate forum for Porsche "conversions" so that all of you guys who think that you can build a better Porsche by putting non-Porsche parts parts into it will have a welcoming place to chat about your projects. Those who want to go there can. And the rest of us won't have our fur rubbed the wrong way by what you guys inflict on your examples of Porsche's handiwork.

Hint... Hint...

I don't care for these mods and would never do it But it is your car do what you want.. I would never be interested in buying such a modified car. I also do think that If people wanted a v8 car they should look at vettes. I do however think that You will enjoy your car . It probably is not what was intended for the car originally but it is YOUR car !!!!!

I never understood why people on this board got so upset about a Chevy engine in a Porsche until I went to Spring Carlisle this year, where I saw a Corvette with a big block Ford. ;)

Seriously, though... what Jared said. If you have the skill to make it come together, go for it. I saw a yellow 914 at the Carlisle Import/Kit/Replicar show last weekend that was beyond sweet. It had a small block Chevy, very very fat fender flares, and the whole job looked like the builder paid attention to details.

I seriously don't get why people get so "upset" over this conversion...I get more upset with Porsche owners who are pretending to be racecar drivers and wreck their 911 than I do with V8 conversions...

(this ought to stir up trouble)

OMG!!! The horror!!! I CAN'T belive you painted the engine compartment flat black!!! Everyone knows it should be body color!:D

That's a damn nice air filter...1st backfire through the carbs and it's toast though :D

Well, to me it really hits home on two different levels:

Level 1) I don't like the idea of removing the beautiful, sophisticated flat six and replacing it with American iron. This is just personal taste though. If someone wants to do it to their car, it belongs to them, and so they can. I wouldn't do it, but it's not my decision to make.

Level 2) This is the level that is the more important to me. I don't know this for sure, but I strongly suspect that you may have to cut the car up to make this mod. If that is the case, then you have effectively changed the car in a way that is irreversible, and to me, ruined it. Since you have now shrunk the pool of available stock 911's by one, I don't love you for that. Not at all. If this is not the case, then see level 1.

Modifications fall into two categories, ones that can be undone, and ones that can't. If you change your radio, or bumper, or seats or rims, they can easily be changed back to stock.

If you cut up your car, you've ruined it; it can never be returned to stock, and that, I believe, is the guts of the reason why people react so strongly to this type of mod.

ianc

Drago,

Been there, done that with my Vette. I bought that kind of filter because it was the only one that completely cleared my hood (with pad). Blew out 2 air filter elements before replacing it with a small round unit that (IMO) doesn't look as good. Now, if I had a source for that foam that's used in the element...