Glad to have a V8

[Jim T]

Jryerson, thank you for being one of the last "non-Politically Correct" people left on this board, who is not afraid to voice an OPINION.

ks911: You say to Jryerson: "I am sorry that you don't care for my car or ideas but I did not ask your opinion before I started this project and your name is not on the title." Just a hint: If you don't want people to comment on your project, you should try keeping off the Internet. You have the right to post it, people have the right to comment on it (and will comment on it, that's the nature of a public forum).

RarlyL8: You say to Jryerson: "JRYERSON - it may be difficult for you to grasp (in true Porsche arrogance) but some folks just happen to have a talent for engineering that vastly exceeds your own. I've driven a V8 S10 for a decade with no problems whatsoever, on a daily basis. No bucket of bolts, to compromises, everything vastly superior to the stock vehicle." So, just because something is well engineered, makes it good?!? Did you check out the link above with the guy putting in a 3 cyl Geo Metro engine in a '72 911? The engineering is immaculate!! Still don't make it right. (I am not saying whether a V8 is right or wrong, just that your logic doesn't work).

I am not saying who is right or wrong on the merits of the V8 debate. Its just amazing that in this world, people that cry out for "open mindedness" are usually the first to attack someone who has an opinion different from their own.

I personally think this board was a better place when posters were a bit more "thick skinned," and people were not afraid to voice opinions or hear dissenting opinions. Was more interesting.

Just my opinion.

[leon]

Piiiiiiccttuuuurrrrs.........

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[H20911]

The funny thing about this board is that I and others would and have gladly offered advice on things(that are are not V8 related) and it is well received. We do this because we all like the cars and helping people with our "vast knowledge".

I think that it was Mark that said "No, everyone should be like me!" and that still makes me

Hey, If you have a opinion (and we all do) than let it rip I really enjoy the intensity but most of the time it just makes me laugh about how some people can get so worked up over a car and it is just a car.

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[MMARSH]

Jim T IM a little confused by your first and fourth paragraph. the only person that I've seen attacking people is Jyreson.

Several people on this board dont agree with or wouldnt put a V-8 in their car. Their opinion is duly noted. For those of us who would like to read about this modification, whether planning to do it or not, it would be nice to read it without some arrogant closed minded snob chiming in needlessly every few posts.

If the topic of a V-8 Porsche bothers you so much that you cant help but be rude, then dont click on the topic.

I have no intentions of putting a V-8 in my car. But, I too would like to see pictures and hear about your progress.

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[mark 74 carrera]

I've read this thread over and over again. I'm I the registered sniper? If I am maybe I can change my name. I kinda like it. Don't be sooo uptight!!!! Jesus H Christ. Oh God, shouldn't said that!! Holy cow, no that would offend some people also. UH Uh Uh I think I'll shut up now.

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Mark Isaak
'74 Targa

[jryerson]

Whats wrong MMarsh, did I get a little to close to home with the gold chain and high school girl comment?
Since you are so perceptive maybe you can count that I made only 1 post about the V8 conversion

The internet and this board is a public forum anyone has the right to disagree and voice their own opinion

It appears if someone disagrees with some of you the resort is to try and censor that opinion by calling the person arrogant or a snob, like I said if you want guaranteed acceptance and yes men go to a forum that is more tailored to your similar interests

If you are so sensitive and concerned about the criticism of your ideas don't post them on the internet.


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[Pazz]

Its great to see somewhere i can finally share my experience on porsche conversions.
I read in the newspaper that porsche was finally making a SUV so i thought at last these guys have got their act together, I gotta have one.
I went to my local dealer and told him "gimme one of those porsch Caynne things" but unfortunately he didnt have one, (i guess they were all sold out or something). I was devastated. The salesman seeing my distress suggested that i pick a 911 from the lot and with a few minor modifications that any guy who knows the business end of a hammer and blow torch could easily handle i could make my very own porsche SUV. Great guy - great idea.
Looking around the lot it was really tough to pick a good one. the guy had hundreds and they all looked the same to me.
I finally settled on a bright yellow one and after a bit of horse trading and arm twisting we cut a deal BUT only when the salesman agreed to throw in a set of fuzzy dice and a chain steering wheel free.
I told him to wait to i got the car off the lot before he tried explaining that to his boss. HA.
So anyway I now became the proud owner of an original 1973 RS carrera. the saleman ( great guy) kept telling me was in cous cous or cous corse condition. whatever.
Call me Dumb, but i just cant understand why these porsch people keep naming there cars after food condiments, I thought cuos cous was like some Lebonese chick pea paste and caynne is a some kinda cajun chicken spice.
weird.
Anyway now to the conversion process. The first thing i needed to do was to change the engine, to get me some real horses. This carrera thing had a little old 2.7 Liter engine an i needed a little more power. i figured 3 liters should be about right, and i just happened to have a 3 liter engine that i salvaged from my wifes HUNDAI after she wrapped it around a cow.
The thing just fit straight in after i hacked a hole in the engine lid to get the radiator in.
i took the old 2.7 engine and hooked up to the water pump at my well, it did miricles for the water pressure and actually blew the lid off the toilet first time i flushed.
My next job was to get some real wheels on my new baby. I got me a set of 60 by 36 Big Foots which with a little help from Mr Hammer fitted snugly.
the only problem was the fenders. I got the blow torch out and cut off the front fenders half way up to get the perfect fit. I was about to do the same on the rear but dam thing ran outta gas.
No problem. Resourceful guy that i am i just got out the old sledge hammer and after 10 or 20 good wacks each side the wheels dont even get close to rubbing.
I must say my enthusiasm with the sledge hammer did scuff up the paintwork a bit, but i was lucky to have half a can of yellow Dulux left after painting the kitchen.
It's not an exact match but doesnt look too bad.
anyway porsche owners are a forgiving bunch, and i'm sure they'll be more interested in my really cool modifications, than worried about the odd dent and patchy paintwork.
Feel free to e-mail me if you want some pointers on how to do this to your car.

[Leland Pate]

Jesus Pazz.

[roGERK]

I'm sorry, but I just don't get the point of doing this conversion...

A 911 without the engine (voted one of the best of the 20th century) just isn't a 911 anymore.

I'm sure the project was great fun, and you spent a lot of time and effort getting it right, but...

Sorry - I just don't get it.

- roGER

[Richard W]

Pazz- Please post pictures!

[MMARSH]

Actually it was two comments but whose counting. Also I dont care if you mention my gold chain(S) but when you start talking about my Hi-Karate cologne and my high school girlfriend, I've got to take a stand.

[Graham Archer]

I think it would complete the conversion if you painted a cute little bird on the front hood.

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Graham Archer
83 911SC Cab

[ks911]

Hey, In truth I don't give a *$%@ what anyonw thinks about my project, as a freind once said,"I don't sweat hobbies".
However a few of the members posts remind me of the old joke, what is the differance between a Porsche and Porcupine?

The Porcupine carries its pricks on the outside.

Oh, who is lacking the thick skin now!!
My point is you can strike a nerve no matter how thick your skin is. Questions, and opinions are always welcome as long as your not being rude. If you are than a little retaliation must be expected.

I will keep everyone posted on the progress of the project especially of the Drivers Ed that I will attend in Oct.

Everyone have a safe weekend.

[RarlyL8]

I suppose the internet IS mostly used by children, but I was hoping to find a haven for adults who have a passion for these beautiful little cars. The ONLY point of the V8 conversion is economic torque. That is it, period. No puny diesel or Geo motors, that is bizzar and yields no cheap power. To each his own, no reason to be rude. I have stated in previous posts that it is true that a hybrid Porsche is no longer a Porsche, it is an extremely powerful and economic supercar that has the beautiful looks of a Porsche. According to Rod Simpson he has raced his Porchev for 30 years now consistantly wipping turbo butt and being scorned by factory and private teams alike - but he stays out there, having a tremendous amount of fun for a lot less $$$. If you are wealthy enough to do the turbo tango I am very happy for you. Have a little respect for the engineering soles who have more sense than to spend tens of thousands of dollars for the sake of purity.
KS911 - can't wait to hear about Driver's Ed. If you're fed up with the sarcasm e-mail me, I'd appreciate the info.

[ClayMcguill]

If a V8 into a 911 is such sacriledge to all those Porsche purists, I wonder what they'll think of my VW Type 1 2.1 liter stroker swap into my '66 912? With a 36hp non-fresh-air fan shroud and dual Webers, it'll take a REAL close look by a knowledgable fanatic to realize it's not a honest 356C/912 motor, plus it'll put out 150+ hp all day long, and is a heck of a lot cheaper to build and maintain-while still being an air-cooled, flat four based on an engine designed by none other than Dr. Porsche himself. So, it's not an original 912-it was one step away from the junkyard when I acquired it (without the motor), 912's are not really that rare or highly prized, and I'm (sorta) sticking with the Porsche ideals of light weight, simple mechanicals, and German engineering-will the purists overlook my faux pax of a non-original engine in my car? Do I care? Hmmmmmm-does Renegade Hybrids make a kit to swap in a 5.0 Ford? Now THAT'D be cool.....

[Joe Bob]

I'm going to go look/test drive a 911/8 tomorrow....will try to go look for someone to play with on the freeway AND the twisties....will report back....

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[leon]

Pictures yet?

[pst]

I am constantly amazed at the bickering that engine conversions cause. Plain and simple, if you don't like it, don't do it! Yes, some like it and some don't. But if everyone was the same what fun would there be in living? This reminds me of how the air cooled car owners think about the water cooled cars (in general--everyone is not the same) and these cars (water cooled) were built by the same people. I happen to be one who likes the V8 conversions, the water cooled cars and the air cooled cars. In fact, I also like VW's. I don't think that I have ever owned a car of any type that I haven't modified somehow. I just don't like to own a car that is like anyone elses and I like ths challange of engineering the modification. Just because something is modified doesn't automatically mean it is bad. I got started modifing cars because I couldn't afford the cars I really liked. I had a 76 911s that I converted to a turbo look. It cost far less than a turbo and to me it was just as fun, I couldn't have had one otherwise. The same goes for my 944. I am converting it to look like a 924 Carrera GTS and am considering, guess what? A Chevy V8 conversion. This also gets some fired up discussion on the 924/944 BBS.
My point is, everyone has their own ideas of what is good for them. No one is suggesting that all 911's or 944's should be converted to Chevy V8's, we are just expressing ouf feelings on what we enjoy. For some it's preserving their car to exact origionality, for some it's modifing with only with factory like parts, and others like to just go faster than anyone including the rich ones with the PowerHaus mega$ turbo motors that cost more than a house! There's nothing like the raw power of big cubic inch V8's! Nothing. Although, I have to also say that there's nothing like ths sound of a highly modified 911 flat 6 either. That's my 2 cents... or should I say dollar and a half!

Do what you enjoy!

[stormcrow]

I think one thing that everyone is forgetting is that there are porsche owners and porsche purists. I am a porsche purist and wouldn't think of modifying my porsche.

I always wanted to own a porsche, and when the opportunity presented itself, I purchased one. Never having owned one before, and after understanding what porsches are about, I have come to realize that a porsche is a different breed and sets itself apart from all other vehicles.

So, to those of us who are porsche purists, we want to keep it that way, and enjoy the vehicle for what it is. For those of you who are porsche owners, modify it, and enjoy it for what you think it ought to be.

Steve

I need some advice on how to put a 3.3 liter turbo engine in an '87 Corvette...just kidding.