License revocation due to excessive speed

[DavidI]

Originally posted by Grady Clay
The good news: I知 here to tell you about it. The other side is I知 sure DavidI has had to scrape too many good people off the pavement.

Unfortunately, this is too true. I have had to make death notifications regarding many good people who were just trying to have a fun time. I am sure these people had no evil intentions when they were driving in the 100+ mph, but there are just too many variables at that speed on a public street.

Two that stick out the most:

1. A family (father, mother, and three young kids) was broadsided by someone going very very fast. All of the people perished. One of the kids was a pile of mush and guts. Some memories you just wish you could forget.

2. An offduty police officer worked a doubleshift and was driving his 280Z home very fast. He went under the trailer of a big rig and it took the top half of his head off.

What can I say? Sometimes even though there are no bad intentions, bad things still happen.

Drive safe, David

[mtburman]

Better to Ask for Forgiveness then Permission.............

[Scooter]

You have a tough job David...hats off to you my friend. Keep up the good work!

[jluetjen]

Better to Ask for Forgiveness then Permission.............

Better to be smart enough not to have to ask for either!

[Kraftwerk]

Many years ago I was caught doing 77 in a 35 zone (empty bridge). Paid
(I think) 150 fine and 150 for a nice polite lawyer. In an instant I had something like 11 points on my licence. Somehow, though I avoided an insurance penalty, and kept my licence. These days I don't double the speed limit on public streets (or bridges)

[jmarenas]

V-1

[norustscott]

...And I wonder why my insurance is so high...what are you 12? Even if you do go that fast on MY (read public) road...don't tell anyone...Did you think this post was going to give you a big pat on the back and thumbs up?

[Jeff Higgins]

Great stuff here, guys. I discovered the drag strip at the ripe old age of 19 after several years of pretty serious street racing. There were guys trailering cars to our "events". It took the death of a couple of friends to sober me up on the full implications of driving race cars on public streets. I thank God I'm still here. I cannot imagine risking everything I have been blessed with throughout my life for a few brief moments of adreneline on the street. I love my new Porsche, look forward to learning everything about it, and pushing it to its (and my own) limits. On the track. At an autocross. Anywhere but the street. Tickets are the least of my concerns; they can be paid. Lives and families count. While I have lost track of them over the years, I'll never forget my buddies moms... Common sense and responsibility, gentlemen.

[RarlyL8]

It's always entertaining to see the same type of crap every time speeding threads come up.

If you own a Porsche and you DON'T drive in a spirited manner when the propper occasion presents itself you are either a liar or a poser.

Speed limits are arbitrary. Just because an 18 wheeler needs to take that curve at 25mph sure as hell doesn't mean your Porsche is no better equipped. STUPID!

God gave you brains good judgment and the V1. The Porsche in your driveway was no accident either. Life's short - speed smart.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by RarlyL8

Speed limits are arbitrary.

Yep..
the Grand Canyon's huge area of huge high speed sweepers
next to that painted rock
is cosmic.. in '70s speak

PS: the cheap 2 lane road becomes the envelope.
anyway the floating 70-100mph speeds, for hours, for a routine ride
thru that part of the SW

[porschenut]

Originally posted by norustscott
Did you think this post was going to give you a big pat on the back and thumbs up?

As a matter of fact, yes I did. After reading post after post in other threads saying "drive it like ya stole it" and "I always take it to red line every shift", I expected kudos.

I drove it like I stole it and I received mostly admonishment.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by porschenut
As a matter of fact, yes I did. After reading post after post in other threads saying "drive it like ya stole it" and "I always take it to red line every shift", I expected kudos.

I drove it like I stole it and I received mostly admonishment.

I don't think anyone driving a Porsche can truthfully claim to be some kind of saint that follows all speed limits all of the time. Some one said a few posts back that they are either liars or posers. Agreed. I think the point many are trying to make is that once you start attaining very high speeds on public roads, in the 100+, 150+, or whatever range, things have changed dramatically from the spirited drive on some lonely country road. It's one thing to drive such roads, with their typical 40-60mph limits and warning signs for upcoming curves that suggest some much lower speed, and have fun seeing how much faster you can take it than suggested. It's quite another to top the ton or better where other folks are using those roads. So hell yes drive it like it's stolen; I think most objections from us have been concerning the top speed runs. Like I said before; common sense and responsibility; there are more ways to have fun with these than to see how fast they can go. Out of the broad spectrum of ways to have fun driving these, that is the one with the highest potential for real trouble, on several levels. By all means bounce that puppy off the rev limiter and whoop it up; that's why we buy these darn things. It is, after all "not your father's Oldsmobile"...

[RANDY P]

A 35 MPH zone would indicate that it's a pretty heavy traffic area, probably with lots of businesses and people.

F#$$king stupid.

rjp

[RANDY P]

Oh, I forgot. In WA, double the posted and it's a mandatory court appearence - also you get to watch your car get impouned from the back seat of a Crown Vic with a cop driving. Not to mention what'll happen to your insurance rates. That is, assuming you can still qualify for coverage. Lots of risk and for what?

[amk]

Originally posted by porschenut
As a matter of fact, yes I did. After reading post after post in other threads saying "drive it like ya stole it" and "I always take it to red line every shift", I expected kudos.

I drove it like I stole it and I received mostly admonishment.

hmmm... we may have led you a tad astray. A lot of that sort of discussion was about maximizing acceleration with a track focus. Sure I love to rev her, but in built up areas I never get out of 2nd gear, I replaced all the bushings and shift coupler just to improve the 1-2 shift 'cos that's where I spend most my time. 3-4 is just for the track (and the freeway on the way to the track).

You really should track your car. It's a crying shame not to. Wait 'till you try doing this speed into the braking zone of a corner on the track, much more interesting. On public roads there is too much a chance that you could take out an innocent bystander, that would be real hard to live with. On the track everyone understands and accepts the risks. You can push your car much much harder.

Regards,
Andrew.

[porschenut]

Originally posted by RANDY P
A 35 MPH zone would indicate that it's a pretty heavy traffic area, probably with lots of businesses and people.

F#$$king stupid.

rjp

Not in this case. It's a country road with about 4 houses in a 4-mile stretch. The houses are set way back with long driveways. The speed limit on most of it is 50, and there is nothing on either side of it but open farmland. The speed limit drops to 35 in a few sections where there are some curves. I only did 100 along one certain straitaway. Oh, and in the whole 4 miles I only saw 2 other cars.

When I did the 140 on the highway, again it was WAY outside city limits. I had the whole road to myself - no other cars in sight, about 3 miles visibility in every direction, nothing but barren grassland as far as the eye can see on both sides of the road. The stretch I ran was flat and straight. So, again, absolutely no one was endangered but myself. Fact is, I would never do such a thing if there was any chance of killing someone else.

Stupid? Yes, but only in the sense that it could have gotten ME killed, or my license and car snatched away.

[Grady Clay]

Dave,

Have you signed up for the RMR DE next weekend at Second Creek?

See http://vista.pca.org/rmr/ and call Bill Curnow 303-663-6365 Copybill@ecental.com

I値l be glad to help you with organization this week if you want.

Best,
Grady
303-756-7308
gradyclay@hotmail.com

[klaucke]

I have to admit I found myself doing 90 in a 45 yesterday. I didn't know I was driving that fast until I looked at the speedo. It was the 1st day my car was registered so I was just getting used to the thing. Doing 45 in my Jeep cherokee feels sketchier than 90 in my 911S. If I could go over that stretch again I wouldn't go over 55. Its not residential, but I don't need that kind of speed [actually, I dont' need the tickets associated with it].

[porschenut]

Grady, thanks for the kind offer. Unfortunately I have to travel out of town that Sunday and thus will have to miss it. However, I would like to make the May 1 event at CDR. I may seek your advice/help when it gets a little closer. BTW, I just sent in my RMR membership app. I'm looking forward to the activities.

[porschenut]

Originally posted by klaucke
I have to admit I found myself doing 90 in a 45 yesterday. I didn't know I was driving that fast until I looked at the speedo. It was the 1st day my car was registered so I was just getting used to the thing. Doing 45 in my Jeep cherokee feels sketchier than 90 in my 911S. If I could go over that stretch again I wouldn't go over 55. Its not residential, but I don't need that kind of speed [actually, I dont' need the tickets associated with it].

That's kind of how it started with me too. I didn't intend to go that fast, but going slow or fast, the car feels the same and it encourages me to have a lead foot (I'll have to fight the urge, obviously). My daily driver is a Jeep Wrangler and it's scary over 75.