SSI's or Headers? Cost/Performance Analysis. - Page 2

Lorenfb · 02-14-2005, 08:44 AM

"pound sand" - k911sc -

Another pea-brain speaks!

mb911 · mb911's Garage

loren something wrong with your wheaties this morning????????

Wavey · 02-14-2005, 09:48 AM

Time to change your diaper, Loren.

ckissick · 02-14-2005, 10:00 AM

You'll save hundreds of dollars if you buy, say, Bursch headers. I have headers, but I live on the coast of California, and never need heat anyway. Performance should be the same, or at least not noticeable. Do what you want, not what some future owner might want. It's reversable.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

wow, someone's not going to get any Godiva chocolates today with that attitude...

randywebb · 02-14-2005, 10:39 AM

George - they do have sniffers - there are some other incorrect ideas in your post, but since you say you are only on track it won't affect you.

dd74 · 02-14-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by randywebb
George - they do have sniffers - there are some other incorrect ideas in your post, but since you say you are only on track it won't affect you.

I haven't seen any. I've seen cameras on the freeway, but those are usually for traffic reports. Please post a photo or other evidence of this.

juanbenae · juanbenae's Garage

compared to your ego loren my brain may be pea sized.

just once can that guy contribute something positive? his know it all act is not considered positive neither.

to stay on topic i just got a set of ssi's and bursch 2in 1 out. i will be installing as soon as i get settled up in lake county calif.... i hear lake county is smog exempt, and whatta ya know my family had an address there.....

sfmlaw17 · 02-14-2005, 12:25 PM

Wow guys. What did I miss? Noting that a future owner might want the heating ability of SSI's is certainly on topic. Why the slight on a valid point Lorenfb?

Jack Olsen · 02-14-2005, 12:30 PM

Is there any Porsche exhaust that couldn't technically be described as headers?

People always get cavalier about heat when they get rid of the heat exchangers. What they forget is that they're giving up the ability to de-fog the windows in wet conditions.

Wavey · 02-14-2005, 12:31 PM

It wouldn't make any sense to you because you're not a sociopath.

sfmlaw17 · 02-14-2005, 12:37 PM

Close, I'm a lawyer!

Wavey · 02-14-2005, 12:40 PM

LMAO!

juanbenae · juanbenae's Garage

sean, look close at the post that i quote. that was someone elses input and loren quoted him and preceeded to hammer him for knowing only what polish to use on a 911. actually not just him but this community in general.

as an attorney i would hope you might look at the facts prior to trying to defend someone. and yeah you did miss something, do a search for loren's name. he is a prima dona with very few positive things to say to anyone. he is by far the most intelligent poster here, just ask him..

ckissick · 02-14-2005, 03:24 PM

Jack, I can afford to be cavalier, since I never figured out how to work those knobs to get the defroster to work, anyway.

aigel · aigel's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by randywebb
George - they do have sniffers - there are some other incorrect ideas in your post, but since you say you are only on track it won't affect you.

I have never seen a remote sensing trailer in the Bay Area and do not know anybody that has. It would be great to have evidence, a picture, a newspaper article, anything? Even some info abou studies that have been conducted. I have only heard about this capability being evaluated, never read anything in the paper.

You are in Eugene, so it can't be that you see them, right? Or do they set them up at the border

How would they proceed if I drive by in my "badly" tuned 1971 muscle car? (12:1 AFR

) Would they send me a ticket?

Please do point out the "incorrect ideas" in my post. It affects me for my old cars, certainly, since I tune those for performance and not smog or fuel efficiency.

Cheers, George

randywebb · 02-14-2005, 08:13 PM

I'm not interested in an argument - it isn't worth my time.

No I have not physically seen them in Eugene or on trips to Calif. I have read about them. They photograph your plate when they detect excess smog components. If there are several cars in a tight line, you might not get an show up for testing order - or maybe all would get one. The last sentence is just my speculation. I do not know how many are deployed. They were developed because apparently quite a few people are cheating the smog laws.

I frankly do not care if you or dd believe this or not.

It is a good bet that they would not issue a ticket based purely on a remote sniff - it would be easy to challenge. That's why I suspect they would order you in for a test. But note that they can simply visit your car at home...

Oh, one other item. The units can be deployed in a van or other vehicle. They don't necc'ly want you to know exactly where they are, right? So don't expect a big "we are sampling your exhaust" sign on the back of a trailer.

dd74 · 02-14-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by randywebb
I frankly do not care if you or dd believe this or not.

You don't? I'm heartbroken.

Just so you know, I only asked for proof, Randy. I didn't discredit your statement.

frankc · 02-14-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by JackOlsen
Is there any Porsche exhaust that couldn't technically be described as headers?

For sure that would have to be the dreaded Thermal Reactors. Ask anyone with a 77 911.

I replaced mine with SSI's as soon as I bought the car in '85.

aigel · aigel's Garage

I think Randy used to live in CA and moved away and now tries to justify living in the rain by telling us these horror stories.

Just kidding!!!!

We are having discussions here, Randy, not arguments. It's never a waste of time to have discussions. Thanks for taking the time to respond!

George