For less than a Carrera, you get more than a Turbo

[zymurgist]

Originally posted by kqw
And you REALLY believe that? A Vette won't get that kind of millage coasting down hill....

According to a few folks in my Corvette club who have C5's ('97-'04), 30 mpg is very doable on the highway. (Not with my right foot, though.)

[gaijindabe]

Originally posted by tsuter
Who wants a car whose demographic is balding white males in their 50s on their second or third wife who make in the measely high fives or maybe low low hundreds like $130K or less.

I feel sorry for GM. Young kids used to want Corvettes.

What went wrong????

Kind of like the Harley crowd... It is a baby-boomer car.

They have the money, but in 10 years they will all be buying motorhomes and Kias to tow behind them.

Where will GM be then??

[ZAMIRZ]

Originally posted by tsuter
Who wants a car whose demographic is balding white males in their 50s on their second or third wife who make in the measely high fives or maybe low low hundreds like $130K or less.

I feel sorry for GM. Young kids used to want Corvettes.

What went wrong????

Now THAT is funny!

[masraum]

Originally posted by kqw
And you REALLY believe that? A Vette won't get that kind of millage coasting down hill....

Bah! Incorrect.

[70SWT]

Originally posted by Flying Toaster
Why with all the alumnium & CF is it still over 3k lbs?

>>Ah hell, I just can't get excited about new cars any more...

ianc<<

Ditto to all of this. Cars are too freaking heavy these days with the current regulatory and general engineering situation. Lotus hasn't forgotten how to make em light, but their reliability is likely to suck. About the only thing on the market that excites me...

[jmarenas]

Jack, the new Z06 have been running around the Detroit Area (pre-production cars) in the last few weeks. Up close these cars are SERIOUS machines!! Talking to a few engineers whom have driven, echo the word ,Serious! Silver color looks best with graphite wheels. John

[RickM]

Originally posted by tsuter
Who wants a car whose demographic is balding white males in their 50s on their second or third wife who make in the measely high fives or maybe low low hundreds like $130K or less.

I feel sorry for GM. Young kids used to want Corvettes.

What went wrong????

...and the demo for used 911s?

[Carl83911]

So why not get the best of both worlds.
a sexy 911 body with the brute force of a v8.

[zymurgist]

Oh oh... they're gonna come out of the woodwork now, Carl...

FLAME ON!

[JeremyD]

Hey - stick a new Z06 small block in a 997 and at least you have a true dry sump engine with some kick...

[Carl83911]

I know, I'd thought of that after i posted. Now, I'm waiting for the flak.

[Tyson Schmidt]

Hmmmmm, used or theft recovered 996 with missing or blown motor......... Swap in a SBC V-8. It already has the plumbing and radiators for a water cooled engine. Might be fun!

[bandhawk]

A 7 liter engine in a time when our fuel supply is arguably nearing a crisis. What a great idea. Thank you, GM, for serving as a role model for social responsibility!

[Lothar]

MotorTrend did a track comparison at Roebling Road in Georgia. The entrants were the new Vette and the Carrera S. The Z06 will certainly have more power than it's generic Chevy couterpart. Hopefully, they will also include the performance suspension package.

However, the MotorTrend test demonstrated the Carrera S finesse vs. the Corvette brute force approach. For my money, they are both too heavy, too gadget filled, and too far from the original concept of the 911. Of course, I don't think the Vette will ever be near the original 911 concept of light and simple. Those days are long gone.

Give me a GT3 and I start to get excited.

[Tspringer]

Hmmmmmmm

Give it a few years and you will be able to pick up a ZO6 for around $50K. Add in another $20K of racecar mods......

INSTANT competitive racecar! It will be interesting to see how these things do in SCCA and IMSA. Where would they fit in ALMS competition?

I could see a ZO6 only race class doing very well.

I agree with the observations about Porsche being long detached from its roots. Today, they build SUV's for rich soccer moms and 997s for the gold chain wearing thrice divorced 55 year old dentists. Top level racing? Whats that?

The ZO6 is nothing but good news for track junkies.

I do however agree with the black box comment. Having my car be capable of reporting me to the looting cops is not something I will tolerate. There is going to be a nice aftermarket for none-connected black boxes to sub in when the warranty is done!

[zymurgist]

I have to wonder what fuel economy will the Z06 get compared to a Porsche of similar performance numbers? I would be willing to bet that they will be within 5 MPG of each other. I don't think it's fair to single out GM for selling cars with high performance engines, while other manufacturers are selling their own hi-po cars, and after all, it takes fuel to get that torque that pushes you back in your seat.

[JeremyD]

I didn't buy my 911 for it's fuel economy rating

[strother]

All of this is rather odd to me. I'm 32 years old, and I've never thought of Vettes and 911s as being in the same class. Vettes -- no matter how fast they are, how well they handle, or how well they are put together -- are simply missing something. They have a really *****ty aura. What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter if a Vette can beat a 911 in a drag race or in a grand prix style race, they are not admirable machines.

[Craig 930 RS]

My 930 is a fuel sucking pig. 5 mpg on track.
But who the hell cares

[911teo]

Yeah I don't get this fuel issue efficency either when you are talking about 500+ HP sports cars.

30mpg.... The way I drive my cars even a Golf diesel (my first car)never managed more than 8km/l which roughly translate to 19.5mpg...