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delaneyd 09-29-2005 09:09 AM

This is the 1st new Porsche that is cool AND affordable. I would buy one tomorrow if my garage wasn't already full of "toys".

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 09:11 AM

What is the cost...........

jmz 09-29-2005 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Doug&Julie
You could always buy a Ruf front end to fix that. :p

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1127998532.jpg

when I read that issue of Exc. I was blown away by the looks of that spyder car

kach22i 09-29-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Tom Wharton
What is the cost...........
Read $60,000 to $65,000.

In five years that's $30,000 used.:)

pwd72s 09-29-2005 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by jmz
PWD72s "the ultimate early car snob"
Hey! I represent that remark! :D But I do need to toss in a recent tale here. Last week, Cindy & I took a little run over the backbone of the Oregon Cascades...atop the crookedest paved road in Oregon, there is a parking pull-out, an observatory opposite the road for viewing the Cascade peaks. We were parked in the West end of this pull-out. Cindy was near the car, I was on the steps leading to the observatory taking pics. A dark green Boxster pulled in...another Porsche! Cindy waved, inviting him to park near us. This guy chose to go to the far EAST end of the pull out, parking his car out of sight from our car, hiding the Boxster behind an already parked SUV. I guess he didn't want to be seen parking near an old P.O.S. :rolleyes:

To go back on topic...I think the leaking main seal worries posted earlier are valid. Porsche knew how to support a crank with the first design of the 911 engine. What happened to make them lose this design skill? Will the Cayman suffer the same problem? If I laid out $65K for a car with a bad engine, I'd be just a wee bit miffed.

JTO 09-29-2005 10:58 AM

I think its funny that the Porsche professionals that have posted under this topic are being silent when it comes to this very real issue of the RMS leaks/crank walking.

The pulled cylinder studs and crappy valve guides of the middle year car, the weak rod bolts of the Carreras, leaking cylinder heads and valve guides and distributor drive belt breaks of the 964, the valve guide and secondary air issues of the 993 all can be fixed with well documented procedures, albeit not cheaply in most cases. You can't fix a crank that walks in the case due to a fundamental design flaw. There is no fix exept to do what Porsche does when they want to take the 996 based cars racing in an international arena; replace the flawed 996-design case and replace it with that from a 964 or a 993.

Just the facts,
Troy

PorschePilot 09-29-2005 11:14 AM

Since call makers make several models to appeal to a spectrum of buyers, they don't expect someone to love every model equally.

I like the 997 and that would be my first choice given I had a bank account to support my tastes.

But the Cayman is a great looking car also. One of the reasons I love my 74 is that narrow bodies have that lean and minimalist look, which is what I like is a sports car. That's why a Corvette is like a boat to me (a fast boat). The Cayman looks lean and mean and that's because of it's size and styling.

There isn't a person on this board who wouldn't take a Cayman if was given to them.

The Cayman name doesn't work, what were the marketing guys thinking?

Elombard 09-29-2005 11:43 AM

I still have a hard time believing the RMS problem affects 100% of the cars. I bet at least its fixed on the 997. I read about the testing proceedure in Excellence I think and the miles and rigors they put the cars through are amazing. How could that not turn up??? Or is it such that it would have required a complete redesign and that would have been too expensive to fix?? Seems awfully risky if they new about it and chose not to fix it....for a company that can afford to buy 20% of VW...

pwd72s 09-29-2005 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by PorschePilot


There isn't a person on this board who wouldn't take a Cayman if was given to them.


Sure I'd take it...but I'd do the same thing I'd do with the PCA giveaway 997. Sell it without ever turning the key. :D!

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 11:54 AM

I'd take one and Keep it...give me, I'll show ya!

Doug&Julie 09-29-2005 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by pwd72s
Sure I'd take it...but I'd do the same thing I'd do with the PCA giveaway 997. Sell it without ever turning the key. :D!
Well that's just dumb. I hate Corvettes, but if somebody gave me a Z0whatever you bet I'd at least drive it before selling it. Yet somehow I don't think you're kidding here. Somehow I think it would get delivered and you'd just tell them to "put it over there" in disgust and wait for somebody to come along and "take it away". Why do you hate the new cars so much? I mean, it's one thing if they're "not your taste", but to really go out of the way to lambast them? What did they ever do to you? Sheesh...

And while I'm ranting, change your goddam signature. The only thing that statement tells me is Ferry Porsche was awefully narrow minded for an engineer. You better believe if he were alive today he'd be proud as hell of the engineering coming out of Suttgart...in all its forms.

...have a nice day.

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 12:07 PM

Doug...I think the Porsche Family (that reparted us all) is in Porsche Heaven...driving the "man" there nutz with Pride and Speed.

Porsche was a blessing to this planet from their humble start to their Proud Present, there is no such thing in my mind as a bad Porsche, its all good to me too...I love them all....

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 12:08 PM

Fat Fingers...sorry DEPARTED is what I meant to say!

Hetmann 09-29-2005 12:09 PM

I like what I've seen so far. Still haven't seen one for real, but seems promising.

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 12:10 PM

Hetmann.....that is a nice ride and link...I Love that color and the engine looks sweet too...oh yea!

Doug&Julie 09-29-2005 12:12 PM

Tom...thanks. I'm a fan of all Porsches. I certainly have my preferences, but I never look down on any of them. I guess having owned some of the "less popular" of the breed I'm a little sensative to Porsche hatred of any kind. I've loved all of mine...and look forward to trying new ones to come!

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 12:18 PM

I agree with ya, I have loved them since I was a kid in the early sixties. To me, they are a work of "art", each and every one of them. The

Speed and Power doesn't hurt the rush of pride owning one either ...that's for sure.

Seems you have had a few too, I have had only three collectively over the years.

Doug&Julie 09-29-2005 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Wharton
Seems you have had a few too, I have had only three collectively over the years.
They're kind of a sickness. My biggest problem is I can't afford more than one right now. I'm hoping to change that soon. But in the meantime, if I want another one, I have to get rid of the one I have. All of these cars I've "gone through" since just 1998.

My goal is to stay patient and enjoy my early 911 now until I can afford to ADD a Boxster S. ..or Cayman. ...or even a 996. ..or a 964. ...or...

911teo 09-29-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Doug&Julie
Well that's just dumb. I hate Corvettes, but if somebody gave me a Z0whatever you bet I'd at least drive it before selling it.

Dude if your plan is selling the car then it's just silly to drive it for 15 miles just to see it's value drop 20%...

Tom Wharton 09-29-2005 12:31 PM

Yep..I understand, fours kids later and being in the USAF greatly reduced my ability to own too many over the years (sixty countires later). However, I have had the pleasure of driving quite a few over the years. I started out buying an MG first, I was in the U.K. after Nam.

That got me into sports cars...real bad too, have had far too many different types, every MG there was, Lotus, Jags, Benz, BMW's, Morgans, TVR's, Mini's, Lola, TR6, TR4 and of course...Porsche (911SC, 912E and my 74 911)...The wife thought I was nutz having all these cars with children, she had her van, I figured..what's the problem....a guy has to have his toy.


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