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lowyder993s 02-13-2006 03:11 PM

Any way we can you guys over here on a work visa or something:D Love the die-grinding w/ no glasses...we don't need no stinkin' glasses!

jpahemi 02-13-2006 04:18 PM

Man, I find installing the WEVO SPS plates a major mod; then I see this project and find myself sooooo small! Compare this to the Jack Olsen BB 2; everything is so relative.
j.p.

DW SD 02-13-2006 05:06 PM

Really impressive work! Thanks for keeping us posted! Very interesting ideas, too. GREAT project!

What's the modified shifter about (what problems does it solve)? Could you tell us more?

Doug

beepbeep 02-13-2006 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DW SD
What's the modified shifter about (what problems does it solve)? Could you tell us more?

Doug

As you probably know, G50 differs from 915/930 when it comes to shifter mechanism. It's completly other way around.

915 shifter is hinged in the middle and you take power out on the other side of the stick so all movements are reversed.

G50 gearbox needs all movements to follow your hand so completly different mechanism is done. Stick is hinged in the bottom with two uniballs, power is taken from the middle of the stick. So you can say lower end of the stick is movable transversally and middle end (where you tap the movement to gearbox input shaft) is movable longitudinaly and axialy. I know it's hard to explain but take a look at fabspeed aftermarket shifter and you'll understand.

livi 02-13-2006 11:13 PM

Proud to be Swede ! :D

Astonishing Göran ! I am building up confidence to change the tie rods. (duh.. did I just admit to that..?)

Kemo 02-14-2006 07:40 AM

Goran,

This is an incredible thread. Thanks for posting.

DW SD 02-14-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beepbeep
As you probably know, G50 differs from 915/930 when it comes to shifter mechanism. It's completly other way around.

915 shifter is hinged in the middle and you take power out on the other side of the stick so all movements are reversed.

G50 gearbox needs all movements to follow your hand so completly different mechanism is done. Stick is hinged in the bottom with two uniballs, power is taken from the middle of the stick. So you can say lower end of the stick is movable transversally and middle end (where you tap the movement to gearbox input shaft) is movable longitudinaly and axialy. I know it's hard to explain but take a look at fabspeed aftermarket shifter and you'll understand.

Goran,
Your written description is great.....I actually follow without needing the review of fabspeed's product - very cool! I guess that lends it to ask: why not use an aftermarket one? Is it because you are fabbing SO much already?
Cool project - you guys are SERIOUSLY hard core.

I've been welding in rear chassis reinforcements to my car and have a 3.6 ready to go in mine, which required redoing the oil cooling system, adapting the chassis wiring. My project is NOTHING compared to what you maniacs are doing over there. I'm in AWE! (not that we are competing).

Good luck and thanks again!
Doug

beepbeep 02-14-2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DW SD
I guess that lends it to ask: why not use an aftermarket one? Is it because you are fabbing SO much already?
Reason is cost. Aftermarket shifter assembly can easily exceed 1000$, plus cost of shipping and time to get it. Even if it doesn't look that way, this project is budget minded. Many parts are being donated by sponsors and lot's of work is done by friends and friends friends who happend to be on top of their game when it comes to certain skills.

One of guys happpends to be CNC operator so it felt quite unecesserary to buy complete unit. ;)

Kroggers 02-15-2006 12:04 AM

Göran, this is just the best - when are you going to let us locals in for a closer look :cool: I need some motivation to do my front suspension, and by the sound of it so does Markus :)

It must be time for a beer meeting ;)

beepbeep 02-16-2006 01:20 AM

Pål: as soon as car starts taking shape I'll try to arrange a garage meet. Right now there are things all over the place and car is in pieces so we are trying to get our minds set on puting it together.

beepbeep 02-16-2006 05:22 AM

Couple of pics of new engine/intercooler setup, done by company called "ML Wankeltrim". They are experts in intercooling, porting and Rotary-engine tuning. Runners are much longer now, which will hopefully enchance off-boost breathing and lower boost-treshold.

Yeah, it starts to look real stockish now :D :D

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1602/IMG_0117.JPG

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1602/IMG_0118.JPG
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1602/IMG_0119.JPG
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1602/IMG_0127.JPG

Kroggers 02-16-2006 05:26 AM

OK Göran, I look forward to the invitation for beer and ITF2 presentation day :) Can I bring my "Its to slow 1" for some custom update at the same time :D

beepbeep 02-18-2006 05:45 PM

Couple of pics of what happened today.

We are fabricating a shield that will force fan to suck air trough intercoolers only:
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1802/if2_001.jpg

DIY G50 shifter is taking shape (this is a prototype that will be much lighter in final version):

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1802/if2_002.jpg

Rear hardpoints are being manufactured:

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1802/if2_003.jpg

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1802/if2_005.jpg

Lot's of pipes in the back (at this point I whish we went 935 route and just built the car on spaceframe and then attached body onto it):

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1802/if2_007.jpg

More work to be done tommorow.

jpahemi 02-18-2006 09:26 PM

Goran:
Will the engine cool as efficiently by having to draw the air through the intercoolers?
j.p.

beepbeep 02-19-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpahemi
Goran:
Will the engine cool as efficiently by having to draw the air through the intercoolers?
j.p.

Frankly, I don't really know. I mean, if you draw half of air ytrough intercooler and half from side you'll get cooler air trough engine but intercooler will also loose it's efficiency as there will be less air flowing trough it.

As far as I see it, it won't really matter as fan draws enormous amounts of air and intercoolers of this size will never get hot enough to significantly alter engine temperature by raising coolant air temps.

We are buildning the shrout so part of it can be opened in case there are problems with drawing air trough intercooler.

Couple of pics from today:

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1902/if2_001.JPG
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1902/if2_002.JPG
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/1902/if2_010.JPG

beepbeep 02-20-2006 08:38 AM

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/2002/if2_002.JPG

http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/2002/if2_006.JPG


Err...it's a Enzo :D :D
http://www.itsfun.nu/if2_2006/2002/if2_007.JPG

Glasgow 911SC 02-20-2006 10:06 AM

This thing is unbelievable! Will it be road legal?

jpahemi 02-20-2006 02:02 PM

It's amazing, the whole 1/3 rear of the body has been completely removed and then reconstructed; almost seems as if the engine has minimal structure holding it up.
j.p.

Asjac 02-21-2006 08:30 AM

Are you guys going to do through-the-hood venting of the front oil cooler?

Par911 02-21-2006 08:32 AM

Great updates Goran!! Absolutely jawdropping stuff! So this is what you guys do inside during all those cold months. ;)


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