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efhughes3 11-14-2007 03:48 PM

How in the heck did you break your leg @ RR3??

Brother 11-14-2007 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhughes3 (Post 3583150)
The article in Excellence was fine. As noted above, the magazine only gets so technical with these types of articles. If they got into more detail, it would have been a very long article to cover all of the parts.

I agree that it was a good article, but I think they can appease the techies as well. The way to do it would be to just list a spec sheet with a list of the aftermarket parts and possibly a little list of attributes like you might find in Road and Track.

I think the trend of the magazine has been towards an audience that more approximates the people on this board. My $.02.

mark4ton 11-15-2007 01:35 AM

looks good in excellence!! congrats! and good work!

Duckworth 11-17-2007 05:36 PM

Nice going on the feature in Excellence !!

In all the reading of threads here, this was the only thread I've seen where the project brought the attention from a female car buff.

Fwiw, .....it's pretty rare for any female to express keen interest in our cars - let alone ask for a ride in one. ...Not likely that will happen again soon. ...:)



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stevemfr 12-21-2007 04:15 AM

Hey Matteo,
after a 'Porsche sabbatical' lasting nearly 8 years due to family, work, house renovation, etc., the article in Excellence and this thread (I just finished reading all 58 pages over the last 3 days!!!) have inspired me to return to my roots and reaffirm my 130% Porsche silliness. I'd already planned to un-mothball my 911 next spring; like you I'd always pictured my 2 daughters in the kiddy seats in the back of a 911 and if I don't hurry, they're going to be too big! Unfortunately, you've put me in a bit of a quandary. My original plans were to put my 911 ('76 911 turned into a SC CS replica) on the road so that I'd have the kids-in-the-back experience while building a 996/7 into something akin to a 997 GT-3 RS for street/track use. On the other hand I've always loved wide-bodied 911's, and your car has got me thinking that this is what I need first. So what to do? Stick with my original plans or turn my 911 into an RSR? Descisions, descisions.

I'm writing all this as an extended compliment to you, Aaron, Keith and the guys at Zuffenhaus, the Prof Timmins, and all others involved. I know its been written before, but this is a truly awe inspiring (and generally inspirational!) project.

Please give a heads-up on events you plan to attend in the UK or mainland, 'ring trips, etc. so that that line can form for rides...

Cheers,
Steve

karate1110 01-25-2008 10:53 PM

Good Luck, It looks really good so far. Question for you.
I have a 1966 rsr clone. I currently have 9 and 11 x 17 inch speedlines. I cannot find deep fuchs anywhere. Where did you get yours?

Thanks... anyone else, chime in !
Gary

shamrockcustoms 01-25-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karate1110 (Post 3728464)
Good Luck, It looks really good so far. Question for you.
I have a 1966 rsr clone. I currently have 9 and 11 x 17 inch speedlines. I cannot find deep fuchs anywhere. Where did you get yours?

Thanks... anyone else, chime in !
Gary


www.rebelracingproducts.com

Clint is a great guy to do business with. while your at it check out his rsr coilovers..top notch product

Jay

Rory Mckenna 01-26-2008 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karate1110 (Post 3728464)
Good Luck, It looks really good so far. Question for you.
I have a 1966 rsr clone. I currently have 9 and 11 x 17 inch speedlines. I cannot find deep fuchs anywhere. Where did you get yours?

Thanks... anyone else, chime in !
Gary



Gary, Do you have some pictures of the car you have?

911teo 01-26-2008 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karate1110 (Post 3728464)
Good Luck, It looks really good so far. Question for you.
I have a 1966 rsr clone. I currently have 9 and 11 x 17 inch speedlines. I cannot find deep fuchs anywhere. Where did you get yours?

Thanks... anyone else, chime in !
Gary

Gary

my wheels are Lindsey Fuchs, 9.5x17 and 11x17.

Zuffenhaus and Jeff Alton are developing a 3 piece (hidden bolts) forged modular Fuch wheel. It will be avaliable in 15, 16, 17, 18 diameters with a vast choice sizes.

I am not sure of the timetable, but they should be ready before the Summer.

And please do post pics of your 66 hot rod!

KevinS 01-26-2008 03:09 AM

Sorry to hear and see about your car. Nice article about the 3.9 RSR. Looks like your off to a good start on getting her back on the road. Keep us updated.

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jmz 01-26-2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karate1110 (Post 3728464)
Good Luck, It looks really good so far. Question for you.
I have a 1966 rsr clone. I currently have 9 and 11 x 17 inch speedlines. I cannot find deep fuchs anywhere. Where did you get yours?

Thanks... anyone else, chime in !
Gary


...good so far? Talk about the understatement of the century!

karate1110 01-26-2008 07:59 AM

My Apologies jmz: This car is AMAZING ! Now I have something to shoot for. I am pretty new here and didnt realize there were almost 60 pages to date. I only read through the first few pages when I posted as I was short on time. But now I see the light ! I am thoroughly impressed !

Pics of mine comming soon; unfortunately I didnt do any of the work seen, but plan to take the car one step further.

Gary

karate1110 01-28-2008 01:12 PM

and another
 
When I enter a downhill turning onramp the steering wheel wiggles a bit. Is this common for these wide wheel cars?.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201558331.jpg

Rory Mckenna 01-28-2008 04:48 PM

I would say no.... you may have a bad wheel bearing or some other issue.

barney911rs 01-28-2008 06:12 PM

Is it always the same corner? Could it be the wide tires following some imperfection in the pavement. If you get the same sensation in lots of corners, then I would agree with Rory that you may have a wheel bearing, ball joint, or some other suspension issue you need to investigate.

karate1110 01-28-2008 06:18 PM

the shakes
 
It s on all hard downhill onramps. I should also note that at speeds above 60 the steering wheel wiggles a bit as well. I think I will take it in . I also noticed that the front lug nuts only turn about 7-8 times to tight. I the wheels look right in offset but I think I may need longer studs in the front as well as the other issues. After this is fixed I think this thing should be really nice. The motor and tranny are really strong.
Thanks so far guys !

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201576643.jpg

lateforlunch 01-28-2008 07:00 PM

very nice work indeed.

Reaper930 04-07-2008 07:28 AM

Matteo, congratulations on the completion and article. I read it while I was on leave back in the US, but after reading through ALL of your thread, the twists and turns all the while sustaining wonderful progress I think Excellence gave it a fair shake for their readers.

Your thread is a HUGE reason why I went searching for the bits and pieces I have, the reason I went from doing a simple repaint to what its turning into. Your creation, along with Jack Olsen's beautiful 911 inspired me to accomplish a dream. For that I say thank you.

Enjoy your Porsche in good health and great company!

911teo 04-07-2008 07:56 AM

Reaper

thank you for the nice words. I cannot wait for the Spring as the weather here in the UK has been quite harsh.

I just finished remapping the motor for the 3rd time... it never ends ;)

stout 04-07-2008 09:36 AM

Matteo,

After re-reading through much of this thread and the more recent responses, I have to say congrats once more. Yours just might be the best short-hood hot-rod I've seen thus far. :) There is just so much so right on the car. I'll be sorry to see the five-lug 17s go. To me, they are just sooooooooooooooooooo right.

As to capturing all of the magic on this thread in seven pages, well, I'm not sure that's possible this side of a book, and maybe not even then. This is a different medium, and it sure has its advantages....

pete

stout 04-07-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by copbait73 (Post 3583226)
I subscribe to EXCELLENCE out of desperation. There really are very few Porsche magazines in competition with them. I find it interesting how many feel the need to put a positive spin on what to me is very consistent in the coverage of this great project. There are rules:
1) get rich, buy a nice Porsche and leave it alone. If it’s a collectable pay someone to bring it back to it’s as new beauty.
2) if not in the general grouping above, live in California home of truly beautiful people and their Porsches.
3) be a California R Gruppe member. Only then can you visualize and capture what makes an IROC clone.
4) if one is going to clone a great car one must go out and search dusty warehouses (preferably in California) for true race car parts then spend enormous funds in a California specialty house (preferably an advertiser) before having them bolted on.
This projects greatest deficiency was geographical. Excellence is a magazine about Porsche IMAGE and how that can rub off on the owner if they follow the rules above.

:confused:

wideRSR 04-07-2008 10:27 AM

Matteo, I recall from another thread, you were looking into building the front rsr fenders in metal? are you having some built or looking at building a few sets. Or were you just thinking about it at this point. I'm looking at the possibility of this for my project. I posted a thread in the body work section but have had little comment on the idea. Are you moving beyond thinking about it? If you are in fact building some can you P.M. me details on costs if you are thinking of building additional sets?
... As for the Excellence side track, I think the Porsche community is better of with it than without it. I did prefer the days when European Car was VW&Porsche IMHO... I'm a VW guy but haven't picked up that mag since the switch...long long ago.

Keith

911teo 04-07-2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor@Excellence (Post 3872414)
Matteo,

After re-reading through much of this thread and the more recent responses, I have to say congrats once more. Yours just might be the best short-hood hot-rod I've seen thus far. :) There is just so much so right on the car. I'll be sorry to see the five-lug 17s go. To me, they are just sooooooooooooooooooo right.

As to capturing all of the magic on this thread in seven pages, well, I'm not sure that's possible this side of a book, and maybe not even then. This is a different medium, and it sure has its advantages....

pete

Wow Pete what can I say... I am surely flattered by your words....

And about the 5-lugs... I am rethinking that too. Especially now that Zuffenhaus is bringing out the 15-inch forged Fuchs in 9s and 11s...

911teo 04-07-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wideRSR (Post 3872531)
Matteo, I recall from another thread, you were looking into building the front rsr fenders in metal? are you having some built or looking at building a few sets. Or were you just thinking about it at this point. I'm looking at the possibility of this for my project. I posted a thread in the body work section but have had little comment on the idea. Are you moving beyond thinking about it? If you are in fact building some can you P.M. me details on costs if you are thinking of building additional sets?
... As for the Excellence side track, I think the Porsche community is better of with it than without it. I did prefer the days when European Car was VW&Porsche IMHO... I'm a VW guy but haven't picked up that mag since the switch...long long ago.

Keith

Keith

yes I toyed with the idea of going wide with steel 74-RSR front and rear flares. Especially now that the 917 wheels and centerlock hubs are available (well a couple of months).

But right now I want to drive and enjoy the car... Maybe in a couple of years.

I found a shop herein the UK that would make them for me... a sort of one off though...

kneedragger302 04-07-2008 12:18 PM

I know you have all seen this about a 1000 times on this thread but... What an AMAZING job. Bar none, the best looking Road and Track creation I have seen yet. All I can say is, Well Done!!!

eimkeith 04-07-2008 12:20 PM

74 RSR would be hot! Especially with that wing...

stout 04-07-2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911teo (Post 3872687)
Wow Pete what can I say... I am surely flattered by your words....

And about the 5-lugs... I am rethinking that too. Especially now that Zuffenhaus is bringing out the 15-inch forged Fuchs in 9s and 11s...

Yep, yep. Keep the 17s for some usage, run the 15s for other things. That said, your car just hits all the right buttons exactly the way it is. At least for me, it does. Whether that's subjective or objective, I don't know, but I do know that cars that look as "right" as yours does aren't easy to come up with, and can easily be unbalanced by as little as one alteration.

I think I even prefer the 17s on your car to the possibility of 15s (which I love...), maybe because then it's instantly recognized as something closer to what it is? I dunno.

If it were mine, it'd be all maintenance from here. I might delete all the decals save the back one, but then that, too, is merely my aesthetic. And, if that thing is anywhere near as good to drive as it is to look at (Bob sure seemed to think so, but was indeed holding back out of respect for 1) your car, 2) a freshly built, untested car, and 3) a new car to him), then it must be insane. :eek:

Please be sure to get us some pics of that thing alongside some of the U.K.'s best roads!

pete

boba 04-07-2008 01:07 PM

John sent me this photo and I hope he does not mind me sharing.

Way to go Matteo, just use it as it was built to be used. Gotta love it.:D:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1207602356.jpg


Regards

DaddyGlenn 04-08-2008 06:17 AM

Lord, forgive me! I have LUST in my heart. (still) :D

johndglynn 04-08-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor@Excellence (Post 3872842)
If it were mine, it'd be all maintenance from here. I might delete all the decals save the back one, but then that, too, is merely my aesthetic.

+1ish (though I like the black on the sides and the roof decals) but aesthetics is the easy part. The real hard work is all under the skin and it's good stuff. I also love the Lindseys on there but I think the 15s will be perfect from behind the wheel.

Whatever we'd do if it was ours, this car moved the short hood goalposts and no mistake. Well done Matteo, your outstanding commitment in building this has paid off beautifully, and given hot rodders a car to aspire to ;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1207674760.jpg

don werner 05-20-2008 07:59 AM

Where can I get a pair of those rear deck lid hold-down straps? They look great.

J Smith 05-20-2008 10:06 AM

Don, try TRE.

Here.

barney911rs 05-20-2008 08:46 PM

I got the ones I use on my race car at Pegasus.

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=LATCH

eimkeith 06-04-2008 10:23 AM

Matteo, congrats on the excellent article in 911 & Porsche World this month.

You, sir, are a celebrity!

mjshira 06-04-2008 05:49 PM

couldn't happen to a nicer guy! I will share a little something about our man Matteo with you fellas. When I met Matteo in person, now mind you we'd known each other from the board, but not beyond that, he and his wife, and me and mine were heading off to lunch. So Matteo asks me, 'should we take the Ford GT'? Mind you, the car was brand new, and then he says with keys held out in hand, 'wanna drive'?

Needless to say, I declined.

But it speaks to what a great guy he his and how he views his cars as things to be used and enjoyed, not polished and admired.

911 in SC 06-04-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjshira (Post 3984407)
couldn't happen to a nicer guy! I will share a little something about our man Matteo with you fellas. When I met Matteo in person, now mind you we'd known each other from the board, but not beyond that, he and his wife, and me and mine were heading off to lunch. So Matteo asks me, 'should we take the Ford GT'? Mind you, the car was brand new, and then he says with keys held out in hand, 'wanna drive'?

Needless to say, I declined.

But it speaks to what a great guy he his and how he views his cars as things to be used and enjoyed, not polished and admired.

Very well said! Speaks volumes! The one and only time I met Matteo was at the open house. He talked to me like he had known me forever, as he did with EVERYONE he met and talked to that day. I was totally impressed. Well done Matteo! You deserve it.

Mike

lateapex911 06-05-2008 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjshira (Post 3984407)

Needless to say, I declined.

.


Tell me you didn't think HARD before declining! (Having your wife there probably "aided" your decision, LOL.)

I'd decline too, but, if he asked twice, or insisted, well, I wouldn't want to be rude or anything, ;).

mjshira 06-05-2008 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lateapex911 (Post 3984969)
Tell me you didn't think HARD before declining! (Having your wife there probably "aided" your decision, LOL.)

I'd decline too, but, if he asked twice, or insisted, well, I wouldn't want to be rude or anything, ;).

I just didn't want to damage the car, you know how murphys law is, I just thought that God forbid the one time some idoit pulls out in front of me is when I am in another persons car.

But he made up for it by some nice short acceleration runs, man that thing was like being in the millenium falcon going into litespeed!!!

Reaper930 06-05-2008 06:37 AM

Congrats Matteo! The Excellence write up is kept for almost daily drooling, the pictures were amazing, I can only imagine the love shown to it by 911 & Porsche World.

Competizione 06-19-2008 06:33 PM

Teo,

Well done.

That is all, just bloody well done.

Enjoy.


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