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This is for all you New (Old) 911 Owners:
I recently did a thorough 100+ point check and tutorial from a highest Pelican Authority recommended local wrench. He found over 70 issues with my baby and now I have many projects ahead of me ![]() ![]() What I want to share is his "in driver seat" tutorial like a reputable dealer would have done when you first bought the P-car. Wow, I never knew she could do all that he did to her: Cold Start: 1. Clutch In then Start, this will lighten the load on the Starter and Battery when cold. Warm Up: 1. Aboslutely Do Not Sit and Warm Up, Just drive off! 2. Keep RPMs at or near 3K until the temperature needle hits 7:30 on the temperature guage (between bottom and 2nd mark) 3. Full Operating Temperature is or near 8:00 (2nd mark from bottom), needle hitting above 9:30 or 3rd mark is a major problem. Carbon Build Up Blow Out, once in awhile for better performance: 1. At Full Operating Temperture (8:00) 2. At stop in 1st, punch the gas and bring your baby up to 6.5 RPMs to Redline (per WI wide body 7.1 RPM's) for 5-7 seconds. Note: This scared the poop out of me ![]() ![]() In fact, he kept her at 6.5 RPMs for about a half a mile and advised it would not hurt the 911. In fact the 911 likes high RPMs. Oil = Heart: 1. Our 911 Oil system is liken to the human heart/blood system, only uses what it needs. 2. As RPM's go up, more oil is needed which will cause the oil level indicator to go down and Druck to go up. So do not worry if oil level drops while accelerating, this is normal. 3. Manually Check Oil Level only on level surface and at Proper Operating Temperature (8:00 o'clock on the temperture guage). 4. Oil "Idiot" Light, even though some may disconnect or not fix it, he recommends it's proper operation only for guidance to safeguard the engine. Shifting: 1. Never, ever pop out of gear this will damage the gears. Always insure the Clutch is engaged prior to shifting. 2. Shift smoothly and do not force shift into gears, he stated even professional racers do not shift any faster. 3. Ignore the "Shift Up" Arrow, Just shift between 3-5K RPMs BTW, he is an ex-Professional Rennsport Racer, I think he may know what he is talking about. E-Brake: 1. Adjust to 5 clicks Ashtray: 1. Get a Coin Purse and Stick it in the Glove Box where it belongs. Hey I don't smoke OK ![]() Fuel: 1. Only Premium Brand 92+ Octane or Higher if you can find it (there is 100 Octane at the Track F.Y.I.) Tires: 1. There are actual dates on our tires showing how old they trully are, 4-5 digit Code. Next tire purchase ask to see the manufactured date, every tire must have it. Intermitent Wiper Dial: I never knew I had that, I use it all the time now ![]() Per our RWebb: Originally Posted by RWebb A "few" things to do when you buy an old Porsche... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...54#post2955054 Please forgive if this has been posted before, could not find in search tool. Note: your year 911 may differ so this only a suggestion, check with your wrench for guidance. Enjoy your New Old Porsche ![]()
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Good post!
The 6.5k RPM for half a mile - procedure sounds scary. Particularly in 1st gear. ![]()
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You should have seen me, I am Asian and when he did that I swear my eyes were Swedish ![]()
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an Asian performing an Italian tuneup on a German car.
I like it. |
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Is that what they call it? BTW he is I-tallian, maybe that's where he got it
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I think the Afghanis do the same thing, but roll their tongue and scream at a high pitched tone out the side window.
A Mexican tuneup means parking on your front lawn under a tree and then driving really slowly with all the windows down. A Brazilian one means you go out and win an F1 race. A Japanese one (I'm Japanese) means either causing or getting into a fender bender in the process.... |
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I think the Afghanis do the same thing, but roll their tongue and scream at a high pitched tone out the side window.
That reminds me of the "Battle of Algiers" movie... ![]() |
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Good post Draco. At first I was confused that you were saying some of the stuff was what was wrong with your car, but then I read the whole post. I guess I can terrorize the neighborhood a few seconds, only for the sake of the carbon burnout mind you...
I will admit, that even though I have always heard the flat 6 loves high revs, the act of 6000+ for a few sustained seconds still bothers me a bit. Any of you "old-timers" care to verify...not to doubt Draco's mechanic... just for two party verification! One question, what was he referring to as "pop out of gear"?
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Maybe with the clutch not in?
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That is what I wanted to assume, but thought this to be somewhat obvious... Thought maybe there was some other definition out there...
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Thanks.
From an old guy that's a new old 911 owner.
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I drive my '69S at 6.5K 50% of the time!
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As an Italian American Canadian I take offense at the term "Italian Tuneup". It is deragatory, demeaning and..
Oh hell...no I don't. Go for it! FORZA ITALIA!
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Is this method really known as an "Italian tune-up"? Sounds fun. I think I want to try it out. I always knew that it was good to get the revs up to max every once in a while, but I didn't think that it was good to sustain them there for an extended period. Does anybody else have an opinion on this?
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Sorry about that fellas. Yes. Some of us tend to be impatient thinking we are in a LeManns Race and do not push in the clutch all the way and pull or push into gear ergo "speed shifting" liken to a motorcycle ( which is also bad ).
Be patient and disengage the clutch all the way before shifting is what the wrench advised at all times. ![]()
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A "few" things to do when you buy an old Porsche...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/189572-long-term-commonly-neglected-maintenance-post2955054.html#post2955054 |
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I did the tune-up thing... except I pussied out a little and just did 6k rpm for 30 seconds.
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