R / Outlaw project...

[Tom '74 911]

Originally Posted by jpnovak

Finally, someone will try this painting method. I am really curious how this turns out.

Here, here! I give you MUCH credit for giving this method a go. I too am very interested to see how it turns out. I've read about this in other forums and seen pics that look great . I know it's certainly not traditional and most people dismiss it immediately as a waste of time and energy. Hope it works for you.

[911Freak]

Amazing progress, seriously! Inspirational!

On the "roller paint" you can cut and polish and get amazing results, btdt

Cut (wet sand) with 1500, followed (depending on the hardness) with 2000 grit & polish with a machine, carefully.... Bet it will look great!

We used to do this with all our custom motorcycle parts before using conventional methods (base/clear, HVLP, paint booth etc)

A move across the pond, new babies (let alone twins), a career, wifey AND time to do all this?

DANG!!!

Keep up the great work & thanks for the documentation!

[wowzer911]

Great thread! Keep up the good work.

[Dan Morton]

I can't wait to see the paint results. I've done this with my garage walls and the painting is easy and flows well when thinned out. Tough as nails too!

[gregk1]

i use alot of rustoleum on my cars and panted my boat tralier and car trailer the same way. it turns out great! but never thougt of doing a car you would have to bear metal it agen to change it to any thing else. but a cheep way to do a track/ DE car you could bend up now and agen or make changes touch up would be a verry easy allso. Hmmm i am building a rsr stile track/de car and may just do that my self good idea

[lateapex911]

It's just another way of getting the paint on the car. But it is extremely labor intensive. When it's done, the painters forearms are double their original size! Lots of wet sanding, buffing, etc. If done well, it can be a quality job. But it aint the easy way.

[jury]

Decided to pursue with the roller painting method. I realise it has raised some concerns, but I am willing to see it through and if it goes pear shaped I've only got myself to blame... The whole car is a learning process to me, I like the idea of it being in constant development (but eventually running). So far the paint is looking ok, and is pretty "bullet proof". First few coats on (3 so far) and I can certainly feel the wet and dry process in my arms but the results are looking good, especially on the fibreglass... The general plan is to go with 7 coats, coverage is looking good so I figure 600 grit wet and dry after coats 4 and 5, 800 wet and dry after coat 6 and 1500 wet and dry after coat 7. Then a fair bit of polishing!

It at least sounds good in theory...















Thanks
Chris

[jpnovak]

Surface finish looks pretty smooth to me. Love the last picture - you can see the individual bulbs through the Fluorescent light diffuser and on a curved surface.

[rphillips]

Anticipation...

[Mark Morrissey]

Well, I love it.

[w21055]

I am certainly interested as I thought of this paint method for my 914. Great project!!

[whiteSC59]

looking good, VERY interested in the process. cheers

[Roc Doc]

[QUOTE=jury;4345938]Parcel shelf in...

I was going to buy a bead roller but preferred the look of circles as opposed to lines/ridges. So after trial fitting the two panels and messing around with a home made stamp with little/no success I decided to cut the holes and back them with some thinner 22 gauge sheet metal using some JB weld (metal epoxy) and spot welds. This will give the desired look and also create the necessary rigidity.










Spot welded in place and then re-made the upright supports between shelf and window.





Sorry I'm 10 months late on this comment, but it might help someone else do this same project. With a flat plate of sheet metal like that, you can use dimple dies to flare the holes, and it will radically increase the torsional strength of the panel without adding any extra material.

Photos of dimple dies in action.



A source for dimple dies.

Anyway, nice build and nice to see someone take on such a project. Good luck.

[SCWDP911]

any new updates, or did you pass out from sanding!? ;-)

[oneblueyedog]

Hats off! It's looking great.

I painted my Bronco II with the Rustoleum and fine finish roller. It worked really well. But alas my son sent it away to the south side of town.

No fears ever for painting a solid color Porsche. Something like a 914 would be superb.

[jury]

Up to 1500 grit now. The whole car has been sanded with it once, there are afew areas to go over again and the bonnet/decklid needs another coat of paint. Next step is afew days of polishing, but will probably leave the paint to cure fully before waxing. The problem is is that some areas are perfect, so it only highlights the areas with abit more orange peel...but for the basic materials and using a 4 inch roller its totally acceptable in my book...

The panels still need to be fitted properly so there a some irregular gaps...


The areas around the decklid hinges have been polished and waxed for fitting...


and I did a small test part of hand polishing on the wing. Nice reflection and even got rid of a small fly that decided to settle on the paint overnight.....I'm thinking this might just work.








I'm moving to Germany next week so this may be it for awhile, but the place we've found to live has a double garage and a sizeable basement so should be able to crack on over the winter months...

Made in Germany 1968...resurrected in USA 2007...realised in UK 2009...completed in Germany 2010ish and the circle is complete.....

Thanks
Chris

[SCWDP911]

Well, thanks a lot for moving in the middle of a great project!!!

Nice work. Love the side shot of that thing and digging the grey. I really like the subtle touch of the wheels and grille, how they tie in together because of the holes. Not sure if that was planned, but brilliant if it was! I wonder what the wheels and grille would like in another color, like black... OR, if you are brave, what about the wheels, grille, and an over-the top deck stripe in some other color - I think orange would look killer with grey. Just an idea... maybe on of the site photoshop guys could give you some ideas on that.

So, from someone who is nearly dead from a large hardwood floor install, how are your arms holding up from the sanding? How much sanding has actually been required?

Good luck with the move!

[jury]

Originally Posted by Shane Van Wey

Well, thanks a lot for moving in the middle of a great project!!!

Nice work. Love the side shot of that thing and digging the grey. I really like the subtle touch of the wheels and grille, how they tie in together because of the holes. Not sure if that was planned, but brilliant if it was! I wonder what the wheels and grille would like in another color, like black... OR, if you are brave, what about the wheels, grille, and an over-the top deck stripe in some other color - I think orange would look killer with grey. Just an idea... maybe on of the site photoshop guys could give you some ideas on that.

So, from someone who is nearly dead from a large hardwood floor install, how are your arms holding up from the sanding? How much sanding has actually been required?

Good luck with the move!

Thanks Shane, hate to admit it but yeah the hole graphic was planned, and I haven't finished with the hole saw yet

The plan is to have the middle panel of the seats trimmed in a orange tarten so there will be an orange colour hit. I also have a set of 6x15 Fuchs which I plan to get powder coated in signal orange (or maybe turqouise if the seats remain all-black)...The decklid cover is going to be clear acrylic so I am going to do the engine fan cover in signal orange also....details details details

The sanding isn't 'that' bad, just tedious! The pain is the edges, its really easy to burn through and you have to touch up and re-sand. The first few sands were done with 400 and 600 grit. I wrapped the paper around a sponge sanding pad which allows the paper to flow over the contours of the body. I think you could also use a piece of 10-15mm rubber which will probably allow the paper to cut the paint abit better.

In all honesty its not perfect.....but all things considered, its not far off!

Thanks
Chris

[aminter0]

Wow!! Sub'd

[MarKoBrow]

Very impressive results, I am wondering if you used any type of hardener with the rustoleum. I have read on a few other forums that enamuel harder was used to speed up the curing process before wetsanding