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Ease of fixing a 964 - in comparison
A broad question, but are 964s comparative to 84 - 89 carrera or even SC as far as general ease of fixing, or are they much more difficult to work on.
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I don't think they are radically more difficult to work on but there are differences. I believe a valve adjustment is much more involved
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They are more computerized. They have air bags, so working on the steering wheel is something that takes great care. With ABS, the brakes are more complicated. It depends on what part of the car you are wanting to work on. I have heard the AC evaporator is much more difficult to replace.
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They have more sensors, microswitches and motors. They have ABS and power steering. All in all - they have the same basic layout, but I was always more intimidated working on the 964 than I was the 1987 (and especially the 1974).
One of the main reasons I ended up with a 1974 instead of a 993 (like I was originally shopping for)
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they are more complicated, and therefore more difficult.
More sensors and systems, the twin plugged 3.6 is even bigger in the engine compartment. Or at least it seems to me it is. Plus - it seems that there are fewer parts available for the 964 than the older "911"s. At least it did to me. Remember - 964 has ABS. It has a high pressure hydraulic system that can have issues if someone wasn't religious about changing brake fluid. If it has 4wd, that's more complicated. Power steering racks are known to leak. All that said - the G64 transmission that was in my C4 was really nice..... and the handling with the 4wd was nice.
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The 964 is a MUCH more complex car. Porsche claimed that it was 85% new. German electronics from that era are not noted for reliability. 'nuff said?
However, the real qustion is, are they fun cars? Yes.
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German electronics from any era are not noted for reliability. Although the first Carrera Motronic is pretty good.
If the 964 has the Sputnik II AWD system, then pray it doesn't break.
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I don't find 964 or even 993 to be that much harder to work on than earlier versions, you do need to be better w/ electronics. I have a 'Hammer' but rarely use it as the same sorts of things go wrong on 964/993 as on older 911s, the usual irritants are leaky seals & leaky vacuum connections
Electronic faults can be maddening in any car and there are some things like abs sensors and airbags that have to be dealt w/ too. But all in all it's not that much different
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