I make Parallel Flow Micro-Channel Condensers for 911's front and rear

[mossguy]

Well put, Joe!

[KelogGes]

I HAVE FIVE OF MY STATE OF THE ART PFC FRONT AND REAR MATCHED SETS NOW SITING HERE LOOKING FOR A LUCKY DIY OWNER that only need to know what size hose end fittings you will require which is easy to do, I have another FIVE sets near done and with more to follow AS NEEDED.

If you’re seriously interested in owning my FRONT AND REAR Matched SET PFC's and don't want to wait for the Pelican DIY testers reports to be published private message me and give me your contact information and what you need as far as hose fitting ends!!! Note my PFC’s are not an exact OEM replacement because they both full advantage of every millimeter of usable placement space possible and mount slightly different and they fit into the body cavities much tighter and better than OEM condensers, however you may need to modify your hose ends a little depending on the hoses you have or intend to use to connect to the PFC fittings

I CAN CURRENTLY MAKE AT LEAST 10 MATCHED SETS A DAY OR EASILY MORE IF I NEED/WANT TOO!

THE handful of idiots posting & making all the stupid BS noise in all the A/C threads here with their ignorant drivel and disrespectful bad attitudes can go sit in the corner sucking their thumbs with the other children and ignored AND TALK TO THE HAND!

[Ronnie's.930]

Reid, you keep mentioning the "disrespect" that you feel is being posted, however, isn't posting the same pictures over and over and over (such as the one above) disrespectful to the owner of this forum as it wastes available space? Pot & kettle?

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

LOL.

Only does wwest assert that if you don't call someone out on a technical error, then you accept the technical error as actual truth. The very fact that he asserts this is mind-boggling.

Cavitation doesn't happen in the gas phase. Ever. Even at turbomolecular pump speeds (over 100k RPM.)

Right, and it is equally mind boggling that wwest is so absurdly prideful that rather than concede that he is wrong, even when published data and independent tests confirm his error, he just digs in deeper by questioning the validity of the well known, many sourced facts, because in his world, they just can't be right.

I know he has been spinning doozies for a couple of years in the a/c threads, but his offered explanation for why Porsche continued to use the straight blade fans on the turbo models, even after changing to the curved blade fans on the NA models for reasons of noise compliance, really takes the cake!

[brads911sc]

Everything is being done to preserve his ego due to buying snake oil from SPAL... which serves no purpose at temps above 80 degrees. when it gets uncomfortable for him, he jumps on a tangent (i.e Porsche fan output, lexus and ford woes) and when clearly overmatched just fights to the death. he will, in the end, always come back to SPAL fans and switches. Its all he has...

He and Reid are very much alike. BS post after BS post all point back to unproven and unreliable claims with no new proof or data.

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Right, and it is equally mind boggling that wwest is so absurdly prideful that rather than concede that he is wrong, even when published data and independent tests confirm his error, he just digs in deeper by questioning the validity of the well known, many sourced facts, because in his world, they just can't be right.

I know he has been spinning doozies for a couple of years in the a/c threads, but his offered explanation for why Porsche continued to use the straight blade fans on the turbo models, even after changing to the curved blade fans on the NA models for reasons of noise compliance, really takes the cake!

[Joeaksa]

And here it is mid-July in one of the hottest summers we have had in years here in the desert and not a peep out of Reid, or any of his phantom "beta-testers" with good hard NEW data, product or photos.

Still driving the system that I built up last summer and seeing 40-50 drops in temp out of the vent. When its 110 outside seeing mid-50 degree vent temps sure is nice and even down into the 40's when its under 100. All with Kuehl's proven equipment...

Joe A

[KelogGes]

Joe sounds to me like all you can do is ***** and moan that 60 pounds plus of R-12 refrigerant you have is not working so good with your THREE obsolete technology condensers you neglected to mention with your so called “Kuehl's proven equipment” The rest of the world automotive manufactures and also all new technology refrigeration engineers consider obsolete .

Both you and Ronnie have sure turned vindictive since I told you NO and I dropped you a year ago as being one of my PFC testers, it’s a shame your such a spoiled brat when someone says NO TO YOU, but is one of the reasons why you were dropped in the first place and has turned out to be a wise choice when I closely examined your more than many hundreds of posts here LoL.


I find it hilarious that your “Kuehl's proven equipment” vent temps are not so good only in the 50s considering your using R-12 refrigerant and all your hype using three condensers they should be in the mid 30s even @ 120 F ambient LoL . My clients ALL get vent temps in the 30s only using R134A @ 95 ambient, what they get at over 100 I would not know yet


ALL I know is My currently available PFC’s, and which have been made available since 2011 and installed to a very select cliental, even as far back as when I first advertised them on EBay even before I ever posted anything here or started my main thread, that all my matched set PFC's that were professionally installed on 4 separate south Florida 911's ALL using R134A get (verified with witnesses willing to attest from what they have personally seen with their own eyes), vent temps in the 30s @ 95 ambient using only 2 matched new technology PFC condensers installed in the original Porsche factory places!!! I have posted the detailed pictures here and of all these installs and their vent temps etc. I could care less about any naysayers, everything was fully documented with pictures and there are plenty of witnesses;


Personally I think it is ludicrous anyone would haft to use THREE separate condensers to try to get normal A/C VENT TEMPS the cars of today get, and so does every automotive manufacture in the world including Porsche and it is why they all dumped their old technology A/C condenser designs and switched to new technology several years ago ROFLMO, but then again some peoples mindset are only into Model-T heat exchangers hehe whatever floats your boat.



BTW One of My first Pelican DIY'er 911 PFC matched set Tester’s installation is making good progress and they say they will post their results when they are ready

However posted soon will be an installation done by a Pelican DIYer installing a matched set of my PFC’s for his 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa A/C, that started in May when the owner first contacted me offered to pay full price for my PFC’s; but because I had already written but not posted yet at the time on Pelican my the request for a DIY TESTER here, my integrity would HAVE been infringed and to live with myself and to help him I offered to give him the same discounted cost for my testers, and make him my First PFC DIY TESTER. FYI his 86 911 is a bit more of a challenge than an ordinary installation for several reasons and also because some fool cut up his rear deck lid badly poorly with the idiotic stupidity of cutting up the deck lid and installing 2 Fans to try and make them fit DUH! So he had to do some extra rear deck lid sheet metal work which is now done, and I have been in regular contact with him coaching him on doing all the normal 911 A/C tips and tricks that need to be done to the body and to the other A/C components and preparing everything before the PFC installation. He has amazed me being going further than some of the things I personally or a professional Porsche shop would do, but I cannot fault the quality of his work its I believe excellent just far more than I think normally is needed to do a proper installation. Also adding to the challenge for me is he is using reduced barrier hoses supplied by RennAire, that were manufactured for use with their Pro-Cooler and not made for use with my PFC’s. But to save him from tossing OUT his RennAire hoses I have had to take information from custom designed RennAire hoses and to help this owner have them modified to help him make them work, and this added weeks to a very simple install. Anyway when he is finished doing all the things he is doing he will tell you himself. The more I have gotten to know him on this project I am very happy how he is doing the install and modification work.


In my opinion. Regarding anyone using or considering a Pro-Cooler I consider them an unneeded gimmick if you use new technology PFC’s and a waste of money and installation time.

However they kind of sort of work maybe??? if you ONLY have and are using old technology condenser heat exchangers you might gain at most just a couple of degrees possible at most.

However When using one with new technology PFC heat condenser exchangers a Pro-cooler steals wastes refrigerant needlessly in a futile attempt to drop the temperature very little OR WORSE it could or probably cause the evaporator to starve for liquid refrigerant and cause a temp rise in vent temps from the evaporator and take away both the PFC condenser or the evaporator efficiency shooting yourself in the foot going backwards

That is my opinion

Another opinion!
In talking to Stokes Automotive Porsche an over thirty five year old well respected Porsche repair shop, Justin the owner pro-coolers is adamant they are complete junk after installing and testing them on 3 of his clients 911s he removed them and now refuses to install them, and says they do absolutely nothing but needlessly waste of the buyers money and have no value whatsoever. (I at least say they might have a very slight benefit on older technology condensers but I have not tested any like Justin has)


FYI I have been a bit busy of late with installation technical support and not posted anything in this thread for some time or telling anyone publically here what I am working on that is new LoL.

I have several PFC matched sets already premade in reserve in the shop and have for some time ready only needing hose fitting ends welded on them depending on the clients custom hose fitting needs request. If requested although they could be prepared and shipped same day as ordered depending on how busy my custom welder is , it’s better for me to say I want at least about a week from day of order this way if there are a couple of days delay for final custom hosed end welding people will not be upset. So let’s put to bed the lies being promulgated by the BS posters here! I require a 50 percent deposit clear my bank to accept a date of order, I require full balance and shipping costs clear my bank before I will ship, I think this is more than fair at this time, later full cost together including shipping cost will be required before an order is accepted.



On another note I will give a hint to one of several things I am doing related to early model 911 A/C engineering inventions, I believe besides my new 911 A/C SYSTEM I designed and tested last year will end up changing early model 911 A/C SYSTEM history using only one single new technology PFC condenser which from what I have been told is the holy grail for an early model 911 A/C System.

I move slowly and carefully on my own design and engineering schedule and following my legal advisers advice not yours, if you have a problem with this your welcome to go to any of my competitors obsolete technology, I am sure they be more than happy to help you out and take your money

I am committed only into new state of the art technologies! New technologies are like a fine wine that is never ready until its time

[Uncle]

And here I was skimming over that last post thinking well I'll be a SOB he has not used "state of the art"!!
Then I get to the last line. I should of known it was a trap.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

Both you and Ronnie have sure turned vindictive since I told you NO and I dropped you a year ago as being one of my PFC testers, it’s a shame your such a spoiled brat when someone says NO TO YOU, but is one of the reasons why you were dropped in the first place and has turned out to be a wise choice when I closely examined your more than many hundreds of posts here LoL.

Here is yet more proof that you have feces where your brain should be. You didn't tell me "NO" to anything because I did not ask anything of you! I told you I would be willing to put your bold claims to the test here in burn-ass Texas and you simply did not have adequate scrotal fortitude to rise to that challenge!

[Joeaksa]

Uncle,

He always finds a place to stick it in somewhere...

Skipper, I am not, nor have been using R-12 for years now. Course you in your state might not have picked that up.

Lets see, was it Charles Manson or Adolf Hitler who used to ramble on for hours at a time? Hmm, guessing both...

Have a wonderful voyage, to whichever happy place you visit most often...

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Here is yet more proof that you have feces where your brain should be. You didn't tell me "NO" to anything because I did not ask anything of you! I told you I would be willing to put your bold claims to the test here in burn-ass Texas and you simply did not have adequate scrotal fortitude to rise to that challenge!

Ronnie,

He begged me to try testing his crap, then could not come up with anything to bolt on the car, so I moved on to a PROVEN product. His stuff cannot give anyone the vent temps that Kuehl's stuff can but he does not have anything to beta-test out in the field other than his buddies at the dock!

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Ronnie,

He begged me to try testing his crap, then could not come up with anything to bolt on the car, so I moved on to a PROVEN product. His stuff cannot give anyone the vent temps that Kuehl's stuff can but he does not have anything to beta-test out in the field other than his buddies at the dock!

That doesn't surprise me one bit! And he has the nerve to go around calling others "children and fools"!

[tazzieman]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Uncle,

He always finds a place to stick it in somewhere...

Have a wonderful voyage, to whichever happy place you visit most often...

IIRC that might be a Mediterranean billionaire's superyacht hot tub , probably good therapy for all the andropausal anger!

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Ronnie,

He begged me to try testing his crap, then could not come up with anything to bolt on the car, so I moved on to a PROVEN product. His stuff cannot give anyone the vent temps that Kuehl's stuff can but he does not have anything to beta-test out in the field other than his buddies at the dock!

I never begged you for ANYTHING, I dont know what your drinking or smoking to make you delusional


But you kept constantly changing what you told me you wanted on a highly custom made non standard non oem dimenstional application for an aftermarket custom body part and I got tired of it and dropped you. You have no one to blame but your self as far as I am concerned

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

I never begged you for ANYTHING, I dont what your drinking or smoking to make you delusional


But you kept constantly changing what you told me you wanted on a highly custom made non standard non oem dimenstional application for an aftermarket custom body part and I got tired of it and dropped you.

You have no one to blame but your self as far as I am concerned

Joe,

Consider yourself lucky...VERY..!

[brads911sc]

[KelogGes]

Joe after I canceled your very custom PFC order, I was not going to tell you but just now changed my mind.

The custom made PFC prototypes I made for you but decided not to send you for several reason; later after I canceled your order; I completely reengineered the prototypes and gave them to THIS RSA 911 pictured below, owner as part of a complete A/C system replacement professionally installed by Stokes Automotive over a year ago, after Stokes asked me for engineering help on this very unique RSA’s A/C not getting cold problem they could not properly solve without me.
Waste not want not.



To the reader

This RSA shown gets extremely cold A/C temps since my PFC’s were installed into it, with constant vent temps in the 30s, the RSA owner was so happy with the RSA A/C results finally having a far better than just a solved problem and the quality of the work etc, he has shifted all the mechanical work on several of his different model Porsches to Stokes Automotive from his prior longtime mechanic.

(disclaimer I have absolutely nothing to do with Stokes Automotive’s Porsche business IN ANYWAY! I only use the shop for prototype engineering development work and testing on my inventions, I work completely independently on my own 911 A/C engineering projects, development and solutions there)

Justin Stokes was and is the only Porsche 911 A/C critic that means anything to me, and for the longest time he refused to believe anything I told him, or tried to prove to him in multiple factual ways related to 911 A/C SYSTEMS, until he personally installed and fully tested my PFC’s and other inventions on Porsches he worked on did he change his mind and finally switch to become my biggest promoter, that what I have invented and created for the benefit of 911’s A/C IS TRUE FACT HOW COLD MY NEW TECHNOLOGY IS AND HOW WELL IT WORKS compared to any other early model 911 A/C product!

This RSA is only one example of a few other 911’s that my PFC’s were independently and professionally installed into by Stokes Automotive and they have all been posted with full details here and ALL have 30 degree A/C SYSTEMS. Your welcome to contact Stokes Automotive to verify anything I have said or shown in pictures or claimed regarding proof etc for anything related to Stokes Automotive.

911 RS ICE COLD A/C 30 Degrees Parallel Flow Micro-Channel PFC’s















I am not going to say much about my discovery and NEW 911 A/C SYSTEM INVENTION I sucessfully tested last year but although this RSA I have already made the A/C pretty darn cold LoL

I plan to to next add my NEW 911 A/C SYSTEM INVENTION to THIS RSA; THEN disconnect the rear PFC I made for it to see if it will sucessfully blow cold enough using ONLY JUST THE FRONT PFC, and I think it just might, but if the current front PFC I made for it does not do it well enough with only only the current front PFC with the front fans you see, I have another new PFC invention under wraps from public information I strongly believe will make early model 911 history for the first A/C system ONLY RUNNING ONE SINGLE A/C new technology condenser and NEW Technology A/C system that IS COLD!

And to the A/C BS noise & dribble makers let me ask you AGAIN FOR NOW THE THIRD TIME that wack off in all the A/C related threads here,

WHO BESIDES ME is actually making any new technology A/C HEAT EXCHANGERS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD FOR EARLY MODEL 911 Porsches ?????????????? I am still waiting for YOUR answer

[Ronnie's.930]

How many times, and in how many threads, do you plan to post that same set of pictures? Just how effen goofy can you get?

[proffighter]

There should be a "No way" button or so and if a certain amount of users clicked on it (let's say 10), the poster should be banned for a while

[Synchro Joe]

Originally Posted by proffighter

There should be a "No way" button or so and if a certain amount of users clicked on it (let's say 10), the poster should be banned for a while