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combatic 01-05-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornpanzer (Post 6475091)
Just a tip. The surfaces between your spring plate and your trailing arm should not have any paint or powder coat. If they are coated, they can allow your alignment to slip.

...are you talking about the rear suspension? I am having a hard time visualizing the area you are talking about. Any pics?

Cornpanzer 01-05-2012 03:54 PM

Yes, rear suspension. Sorry, maybe I am jumping ahead. =)

combatic 01-05-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornpanzer (Post 6475356)
Yes, rear suspension. Sorry, maybe I am jumping ahead. =)

OIC, I will try to tuck that away in my pea brain for later! I am going to try and get the front cobbled back together then move it out of the way to work on the motor next! Hopefully I will not have to refurb the back ...this year anyways =)

kt911rs 01-08-2012 10:35 AM

Bryan,
Your ALIVE!......Looks awesome. The Holidays are nice, but sometimes it's better to be in the Garage in the Zone. Are you thinking of getting engine done and get it on the road for spring, and finish the rest later? Anyways......I'm back to another round of block sanding today. Keep at it!

combatic 01-08-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kt911rs (Post 6480796)
Bryan,
Your ALIVE!......Looks awesome. The Holidays are nice, but sometimes it's better to be in the Garage in the Zone. Are you thinking of getting engine done and get it on the road for spring, and finish the rest later? Anyways......I'm back to another round of block sanding today. Keep at it!

Oohhh...block sanding. Sounds like you are getting close? Or are you still working on the primer coat?

That is the plan! Get the car moving for spring. I was going to spray schutz this weekend but poor planning on my part. I don't have the schutz or the schutz gun. It looks like the best shutz to spray to replicate factory finish is wurth (the non-water soluble type). Any recommendations? I was going to just order a cheap schutz gun b/c the Wurth gun is $80 bucks.

Just spent yesterday working on refurbing the pedal cluster and steering rack.

kt911rs 01-08-2012 11:41 PM

I got the 3M type, and the Wurth gun...You can use them if you want to save some dollars. You just have to clean them good when your done. I always have a couple quarts of Wurth SKS in stock. They stopped makeing the Non water base stuff a year ago. I just got restocked, and they no longer make white/beige color. All they sell now is grey, and black. Wurth is really going eco-friendly. Mark at Eurotech has used a product from westco that is way cheaper, and top coats very well. Can't be all bad...The twin grill roadster he did won the Porsche Parade last year. If you just need the Schulz gun?....Got a loaner you can hang onto. Also have a couple extra sets of bronze pedal bushings if you need them for your rehab. Yup...Primer blocksanding Twice in 150grit, now in final primer ready for final sand and color. Gonna wait, and install engine, and make it run first. With all new wireing harnesses throughout the whole car, and some upgrades with the new ECU, and twin-plug...might be messin' around for a few weeks, and don't want to take the chance of scratching this smooth skin. Just email or PM me if you want the texture gun or supplies!!! My offer still stands to get your stuff at cost for you. Keep up the motivation!

Fishcop 01-09-2012 01:32 AM

Bryan, if you're after an alternative to waterbased Wurth, you should still be able to get Upol Gravitex in a solvent suspension - this is what I went with and the result was perfect (I used a very cheap disposable plastic schutz gun too).

combatic 01-09-2012 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=kt911rs;6482197]I got the 3M type, and the Wurth gun...You can use them if you want to save some dollars. /QUOTE]

Kelly, great talking with you this afternoon.

Is this the Wurth product we are talking about to replicate the undercoating from the factory? Wurth SKS Stone Gaurd I don't think our host carries it.

http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/ima...ge_170_173.jpg

kt911rs 01-09-2012 05:09 PM

That's it....Got both Black and Grey....I'll bring some head socks so you don't mess up your hair lol.....

combatic 01-09-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kt911rs (Post 6483649)
That's it....Got both Black and Grey....I'll bring some head socks so you don't mess up your hair lol.....

ha ha...yeah. I guess I will be the one holding the trim board as you spray?

jpnovak 01-09-2012 07:17 PM

Bryan, Good to see you making progress on the car. Maybe I will see it in May.

combatic 01-09-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jpnovak (Post 6483923)
Bryan, Good to see you making progress on the car. Maybe I will see it in May.

That is the plan Jamie! It is going to be a rat rod for sure but I am am running as fast as I can. Hopefully the Wurth underbody coating will get on this coming weekend some help from kt911rs...then I can get the suspension on and move the other car in to start fiddling with the 2.7 motor....

combatic 01-09-2012 09:41 PM

Day 186 || Waiting for Undercoat
9Jan2012
Finally decided on the type of undercoating to go with and a friend has volunteered to pull off of his 911 project and help me shoot the undercoating this coming weekend (I need help with where the factory sprayed and he has the knowledge and the Schutz gun :D). While I wait, I started fiddling with stuff that needs to be cleaned up before hanging back on the car. Some pix.

Cleaned up the steering rack box...and what a pita! Solvents wouldn't clean off the 40 years of grime so I used a light wire wheel on my drill and tooth brushes..ack! (Turbo tie rods will go on once she is all back together so I left the tie rods as is to move the car around in the meantime...)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...-16-25_961.jpg

Pedal assembly is a little tired but the bushings don't seem to be worn...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l...-09-18_275.jpg

Partial dis-assembly
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v...-42-58_541.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...-23-23_213.jpg

Parts out of the solvent washer for a little detergent bath and then into Evaporust to soak
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...-34-12_749.jpg

Big parts stripped and ready for etching primer and paint
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...-51-40_217.jpg

kt911rs 01-11-2012 09:20 AM

Bryan,
Sure you don't want a set of NEW pedal Bushings?....I'm a GO for Saturday. What do you mean "Holding the cardboard backstop?" Your gonna be spraying! I'll do a little inside the trunk area, and then it's "ALL YOU!" It's the way to learn. You can't really screw it up. Instruction is always nice, but NOTHING like hands on. You got skills, and you will do an AWESOME job like everything else you touched on your '69.
Kelly

dhagood 01-11-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kt911rs (Post 6486975)
Bryan,
Sure you don't want a set of NEW pedal Bushings?.

given what a professional job you've done so far, i find it interesting that you're considering reusing the old bushings. have you measured the bushings, found them within specification, and not mentioned it?

i realize this is fully within the dreaded "while you are in there" syndrome, but how often does when completely disassemble their pedal box?

i'm not being critical here, i'm just trying to understand the process.

combatic 01-11-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kt911rs (Post 6486975)
Bryan,
Sure you don't want a set of NEW pedal Bushings?....I'm a GO for Saturday. What do you mean "Holding the cardboard backstop?" Your gonna be spraying! I'll do a little inside the trunk area, and then it's "ALL YOU!" It's the way to learn. You can't really screw it up. Instruction is always nice, but NOTHING like hands on. You got skills, and you will do an AWESOME job like everything else you touched on your '69.
Kelly

All right! I will sync up with you about time or just PM me. I am all for hands on. How much are these magic bushings you speak of? =)

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Originally Posted by dhagood (Post 6487108)
given what a professional job you've done so far, i find it interesting that you're considering reusing the old bushings.

dhagood, I do need to inspect it closer but after I took the spring load off of the pedals they seemed to still have a reasonably close fit and visual inspection didn't show any uneven or obvious wear.

That being said I don't know of spec' that I can throw my calipers on. Maybe Kelly will bring new bushings to compare to.

Your right though....I will double check it 'while I am in there'. What I am actually trying to resist is lighting the pedal sub-assembly and spending time that is not critical to making the car go and stop ;) I have another unit in my parts car that can be monkeyed with offline down the road. leichtbauers project is an evil influence- Hot Rod Projekt

kt911rs 01-11-2012 08:15 PM

These Magic Bushings I speak of are yours if you want them, Yes...FREE! Isn't it refreshing to build a P-Car on a budget. If they can help you out...It's all good. Karma is KING!

combatic 01-11-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kt911rs (Post 6488429)
These Magic Bushings I speak of are yours if you want them, Yes...FREE! Isn't it refreshing to build a P-Car on a budget. If they can help you out...It's all good. Karma is KING!

Awesome! I will say this, one thing that really sold me on these old German cars besides the raw visceral driving experience is the incredible community, knowledge and support that surrounds these wonderful cars. I think I also lucked out living in the Seattle area! Lots of early car guys with skills right in my back yard! Hopefully I can pay it forward.

kenikh 01-12-2012 11:50 AM

Yeah dood, don't screw around. Redo the pedals in PB and do it right. They're cheap.

Jim Horton 01-12-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by combatic (Post 6488512)
Awesome! I will say this, one thing that really sold me on these old German cars besides the raw visceral driving experience is the incredible community, knowledge and support that surrounds these wonderful cars.

+1. That is why I sold my '26 model T /RAJO overhead-motored project and bought a '70 "T" to hotrod instead.


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