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I know everyone screams "get a PPI" to everyone else, but based on my experience looking for a 911, lots of cars get bought and sold without them.
So fess up: did YOU buy your car without one? Note: this doesn't apply to projects, but cars you were planning on driving. For those that did get a PPI, what was the result? Did you pass on the car? Buy it? Use the results to get some $$ off the seller's asking price? Last edited by rwilner; 08-16-2012 at 04:31 PM.. |
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I didn't get a PPI because I got to speak to the mechanic (Tom Amon) who worked on it just a few weeks before I bought the car.
He told me it was in fantastic shape, and it wasn't worth it. He was 100% correct.
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Nope. I sifted through almost 20 years of receipts and did my own inspection.
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Yes on a few, no on most. For #13 (and to some degree #15), I really, really wish I had...
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Nope, trailered mine home. It was gonna be easy, or a fun project, either way I'd be happy. It was easy.
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No PPI. I bought it from a very good friend and knew it's history. It had just had a very thorough service at Dave White Racing in Tampa. I have had it for eight years and have had zero unpleasant surprises. I don't recommend skipping the PPI in most cases. Maybe I was just lucky. My car had low mileage at 36k and a good service record.
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Owned over a dozen Porsches since 1984.
Never had a PPI done on any of them. It doesn't work with the way I buy cars. I show up with cash (or ready to go to the local bank to get cash/cashier's check), ready to go. That's how you get the best deal. Cash on the spot is very appealing to most sellers. |
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umm...add one more to the poll....
i got a ppi and "passed" inspection. two months later had to invest $2700 in a major tune up...this is when i had no idea about doing my own work...
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Yes: spent $150 and the owner ended up dropping the price 2K. Worth every penny.
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No PPI and no regrets... first 911 purchase too. I read enough about them and drove a good selection before buying mine on the spot. The more you drive the more you can spot the good from the bad. Nothing against a PPI here... $300 can reveal a WHOLE lot of hidden issues. For me, my car worked out great though.
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No on both Porsches. Brother owned the 70T and had the receipts. The 89 3.2 Targa was such a good deal, I decided to wing it. Had a few problems, nothing major, paid 12k for it and put in about 5k, tires, rear brakes, fixed lots of piddly stuff and a top end, valves, guides. If they had not dropped price, I would have done a PPI. Steve
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Having worked in auto repair in a prior life, I thought I knew enough... but upon my first visual inspection I knew that these cars are not like any I had worked on. I took the car to a great local shop to get a PPI and it revealed a strong engine in a very unoriginal and modified car. Ultimately, the PPI resulted in my not buying that car, but getting educated by the shop in what I should be looking for and what "matters".
Using that information and the MANY MANY amazing posts on these forums, I went on a search and bought a different car with cash on the spot after my own thorough inspection (plus a fair amount of receipts). I pointed out the issues to the seller and the price dropped to a place that made it a deal I couldn't refuse. So far, I got exactly what I wanted and have enjoyed the maintenance almost as much as the driving.
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Had a PPI done, and the "highly thought of" mechanic in Oakland did not tell me about the 3 broken head studs, (74 Targa with SC motor)
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