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SilberUrS6 06-13-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 7496607)
There arent two naysayers. people start their posts asking you to not reply. Its 1/2 the posters in any thread.

You are seen as a TROLL. at 73 id think youd be alittle smarter than this...

He needs to quit stalling and just shoot the damn video. I don't need to be there. Just run the car, then run the camera. It's not rocket surgery.

wwest 06-13-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 7496607)
There arent two naysayers. people start their posts asking you to not reply. Its 1/2 the posters in any thread.

You are seen as a TROLL. at 73 id think youd be alittle smarter than this...

Still having trouble reading and/or comprehending...?

Need new eyeglasses?

2 PRIMARY naysayers...

brads911sc 06-13-2013 01:45 PM

Still waiting on the video...

Not a naysayer at all. Just want proof one way or the other. What I have works just fine. I just merely disagree with your NUMEROUS comments that what I have is just snake oil. When in fact it does work. If yours works better, then all I ask for is video proof since you dont have 100's of people who will verify it like Kuehl and Zims and Rennaire does.. seems reasonable to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7496716)
Still having trouble reading and/or comprehending...?

Need new eyeglasses?

2 PRIMARY naysayers...


SilberUrS6 06-13-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 7496722)
Still waiting on the video...

Not a naysayer at all. Just want proof one way or the other. What I have works just fine. I just merely disagree with your NUMEROUS comments that what I have is just snake oil. When in fact it does work. If yours works better, then all I ask for is video proof since you dont have 100's of people who will verify it like Kuehl and Zims and Rennaire does.. seems reasonable to me.

I'm absolutely a naysayer. I say "nay" to the following asserions:

800psi high-side pressures.
78 degrees is "the standard" for comfort.
Cavitation of ANY kind in a gas.
Decklid fans offer no restriction for engine cooling air.
High pressure causing leaks at fittings.

There is zero evidence/support for ANY of these assertions. Personal preference or opinion does NOT count as evidence or support.

With all the false and misleading stuff that wwest types, how could ANYONE take anything he says at face value?

brads911sc 06-13-2013 01:59 PM

Guess I am a Naysayer as well then. I agree with you. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7496745)
I'm absolutely a naysayer. I say "nay" to the following asserions:

800psi high-side pressures.
78 degrees is "the standard" for comfort.
Cavitation of ANY kind in a gas.
Decklid fans offer no restriction for engine cooling air.
High pressure causing leaks at fittings.

There is zero evidence/support for ANY of these assertions. Personal preference or opinion does NOT count as evidence or support.

With all the false and misleading stuff that wwest types, how could ANYONE take anything he says at face value?


kuehl 06-13-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big911fan (Post 7496165)
It seems to me a practical experiment is in order. I can see the argument on both sides of this issue so I'm not taking sides. I just want practical proof.

Thoughts?

Ask any experienced AC tech this:
After a car is driven and you turn off the engine, does the high side rise?
If the high side did rise does it rise above normal operating pressures?

If you decide to run fans or anything off a trinary switch be sure you know how many amps the feed line can carry. ;)

wwest 06-13-2013 02:10 PM

You're the TWO..!

brads911sc 06-13-2013 02:22 PM

The video please... LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7496770)
You're the TWO..!


GaryR 06-13-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7496716)
Still having trouble reading and/or comprehending...?

Need new eyeglasses?

2 PRIMARY naysayers...

Add me to your BS list.. so now it's 3?

Mr Project 06-13-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7496745)
I'm absolutely a naysayer. I say "nay" to the following asserions:

800psi high-side pressures.
78 degrees is "the standard" for comfort.
Cavitation of ANY kind in a gas.
Decklid fans offer no restriction for engine cooling air.
High pressure causing leaks at fittings.

There is zero evidence/support for ANY of these assertions. Personal preference or opinion does NOT count as evidence or support.

With all the false and misleading stuff that wwest types, how could ANYONE take anything he says at face value?

Count me in as well. What's far worse is the insidious way wwest pollutes every single discussion about A/C with endless variations on the same tripe. It's incredible to me that you haven't been banned from the forum, the admins on this site are much more tolerant than I would be in their shoes.

Ronnie's.930 06-13-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Project (Post 7497317)
Count me in as well. What's far worse is the insidious way wwest pollutes every single discussion about A/C with endless variations on the same tripe. It's incredible to me that you haven't been banned from the forum, the admins on this site are much more tolerant than I would be in their shoes.

Why in the world should he be banned - because you don't like what he types? If his stuff pisses you off so much then perhaps you shouldn't read any of it (or maybe work on growing a pair)! :p

howard freeman 06-13-2013 08:11 PM

They will leak & I can prove it. Why would anyone believe the stinking EPA ????

Reiver 06-13-2013 08:16 PM

I wish my legacy hose didn't leak...:(

wwest 06-13-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryR (Post 7497302)
Add me to you BS list.. so now it's 3?

Sorry, no, you're not yet at the required number of unfounded naysayings.

SilberUrS6 06-13-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 7497393)
I wish my legacy hose didn't leak...:(

lmao - that's awesome.

SilberUrS6 06-13-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Project (Post 7497317)
Count me in as well. What's far worse is the insidious way wwest pollutes every single discussion about A/C with endless variations on the same tripe. It's incredible to me that you haven't been banned from the forum, the admins on this site are much more tolerant than I would be in their shoes.

It's simple enough to add him to the ignore list. Reading his drivel second-hand is bad enough, believe me.

brads911sc 06-14-2013 06:42 AM

Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by silberurs6 (Post 7497455)
it's simple enough to add him to the ignore list. Reading his drivel second-hand is bad enough, believe me.


wwest 06-14-2013 09:05 AM

Ready for NAYSAYING......GO!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/755872-pertronix-coil.html#post7498163

brads911sc 06-14-2013 09:09 AM

Shoot the damn video WWEST.


Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7498171)


wwest 06-14-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuehl (Post 7496769)
Ask any experienced AC tech this:
After a car is driven and you turn off the engine, does the high side rise?

Assuming the A/C was in operation in an air-cooled engine POrsche then both condensors will INSTANTLY lose cooling airflow and thus the condensor vane temperature will temporarily rise.

Ask ANY experienced AC tech if the above is true and THEN ask if the high side pressure will rise accordingly.


If the high side did rise does it rise above normal operating pressures?

Of COURSE, provided the high side pressure was ALREADY at "normal operating pressure".

If you decide to run fans or anything off a trinary switch be sure you know how many amps the feed line can carry. ;)

80W = ~7A = 20A SB inline fuse, after-run voltage source directly to the starter solenoid alternator/battery interconnect terminal.

Question for Kuehl...

It appears (numerous posts) that evaporator freeze-up is a fairly common occurance, inclusive of a few occurances (high mountain passes) of my own. Then why does, apparently, the compressor not be damaged via slugging?

In my own case there seemed to be no detectable system airflow, indicating that the evaporator was now simply a block of ICE. Since that ice becomes a PERFECT insulator why would liquid refrigerant now not flow directly to the compressor inlet?

How quickly does/will serious damage to the compressor result?


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