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Good to seen an update on your car. I did those b pillars last year and it was definitely challenging!
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Today I finished off the B Pillars: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453263591.jpg and removed the old insulation - it came out pretty clean. I have some small relatively loose patches of old insulation to remove, but I am going to glue carpet right over this area, so I am not going to try to remove all of the old glue. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453263768.jpg I think tomorrow I will remove the seats and prep for the carpet installation. |
I can probably get you weights on the steel bumpers front and rear and the rear center panel within a week or two.
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The front steel bumper I bought is a dansk replacement (standard with fog light holes - 91150501105GRV) weighs about 24.5 lbs.
The top rear deck insulation pad I removed weighed in at 14.3lbs while the lower seat bad with insulation was 9.9lbs. That was an easy 24lbs of weight removal. I pulled the seats today and removed the targa top. I need to remove seat belts and prep for carpet. The is a RS seat delete carpet kit. I may need to build up some of the rear seat are with foam now that I removed the factory insulation padding. I will have to see how it fits. |
Yesterday I built up a few more areas with the soundproofing foam.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779666.jpg Today I got most of the carpet in...still have some details to take care of. The photos make it look lighter than it is - it is a dark charcoal salt and pepper look. I am not happy with how the side walls take carpet and the pieces I got. I might use the old vinyl sidewall and restore them. I like the look of the squareweave. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779691.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779713.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779731.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779753.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1453779794.jpg Other that the sidewalls, I need to do the footwell blower motor covers and the A post vinyl then install the sill strips I bought. Then I think I need some RS door cards. |
I don't like the cut of the Lakewell rear side carpet pieces, and I have yards of vinyl, so I am going to try recovering my rear sides in vinyl. I will also be going with the RS door cards in vinyl. Here are the upper rear side pieces done (about 30 minutes each):
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455819228.jpg The old vinyl side pieces in place to get a feel of the look: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455819239.jpg The footwell blower pieces covered in carpet (about 30 minutes each): http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455819251.jpg And the new rubber "sleeve" installed. I will need to extend the rubber to cover the carpet hole or take some of the excess carpet and cut a doubler patch for the area between the seats. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455819262.jpg |
Looking great! I love the weave on that carpet.
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Got a good day in today. First I cut and glued the vinyl A pillar carpet up:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850636.jpg Then installed new aluminum door sill cover plates: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850662.jpg Then I installed the footwell blower covers (missing one screw). That was fun trying to hunt for the holes through the carpet:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850650.jpg Then I covered the rear sidewalls in new vinyl, and installed them to see if I like the look. I do. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850682.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850693.jpg Almost there - I need some RS door cards. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850713.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455850728.jpg I then installed the seats. I need to get it road worthy and take it for a drive next.... |
Today, for some reason, I started taking apart the Targa inner pieces to get ready to install new foam and vinyl. Removal of the old vinyl and foam was easy by hand taking less than an hour.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930693.jpg Most of the grey foam came off in large sections...mostly it was just glued around the edges.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930624.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930634.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930716.jpg It was rather easy to remove the grey foam residue by rubbing with my fingers and thumb (and scraping lightly with my fingernails a few times): http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930771.jpg There are a few places where I need to reglue the shaped foam back to the metal and a couple of small places I need to fill the foam: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930782.jpg Now I need to remove the old glue residue with some citristrip: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455930792.jpg |
Really nice job on the carpet.
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Nice job on the targa bar! Cant wait to see how it turns out!
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Thanks guys! Today I started in on the foam and vinyl installation of the targa bar pieces. I got headliner material from Joann's for half price at $14.99 for two yards (because I might also do RS Door panels). This is 1/8" thick grey foam with a black material backing on one side. It is stretchy and strong....perfect. I also used a very strong headliner adhesive to glue it down.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105490.jpg I finished cleaning the boomerangs (by hand with finger abrasion; no solvents) and repairing one with contact cement: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105428.jpg I cleaned the removable targa liner with citristrip in the metal surfaces and by rubbing with my fingers on the foam side: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105447.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105468.jpg I am not reinstalling the dome light (useless), so I patched it with some left over sound deadening foam: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105721.jpg Then I glued the inside flat first: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105752.jpg Lastly, I trimmed it all around: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105784.jpg |
Now I move over to the car and clean all the original glue residue with citristrip:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456105957.jpg I taped off the area I only wanted to glue and made a cardboard spray template to control the glue: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106035.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106046.jpg I install the boomerangs with contact cement. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106281.jpg Then I glued the foam starting from the rear working across and then back to front (I used sections of the foam material that would overlap in the middle so I was only working on one half at a time. I trim it with scissors. The rear side trim doesn't need to be nice as it is covered by the targa bar insert panel: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106293.jpg Now I suck it up and mark the center of the single vinyl piece that will span the entire targa bar on the front side. I heat the vinyl up by putting it in the dryer for a few minutes. Then I glue it starting from the back to front starting in the corner. You have to work fast and accurately as you don't get a chance to reposition it: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106735.jpg The toughest spots are these corners. Luckily the vinyl was warm and stretchy. I will let it dry overnight and then trim the back side of the targa seal channel area and contact cement the vinyl in to secure it. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456106653.jpg |
So, a couple of hours in tonight. Man, these targas will keep you up at night. I was stressing the final vinyl overlay of the boomerangs...and wondering if I could design a simpler inside cover.
Anyway, thanks to stretchy vinyl and a little heat gun action, I had major success. The hardest part (I think) is now done. Not perfect, but done. Using the same process as the other side, gluing back to front in stages, and using the heat gun in the front corner, it all came together. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456197362.jpg I trimmed leaving alot of excess on the back side: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456197387.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456197397.jpg and then got cocky and test fit the new seal that will go in: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456197438.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456197453.jpg I still need to open the hole and install the center guide pin plate. I wonder where that is... |
I really like the look of the charcoal squareweave. Did you purchase this as a kit? Where did you find it? Approximately how much? I'd like to do something similar on my 77 targa.
Cheers, Jon |
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Also curious if your entire carpet kit has that rubber backing as shown on the pedal cover piece in this photo? I ordered my squareweeve from World Upholstery and it has no backing whatsoever on any of it. Cheers and nice work! |
Moozak,
It was a kit from Lakewell in Belgium. A few months ago it cost : EUR 868 and the shipping for that and more items (vinyl, glue, some aluminum pieces, etc) was $125. It was one month from order to delivery. Be very detailed in what you need. I neglected to say that I was doing a center console delete and now I have to come up with a patch for between the seats. Also I would suggest ordering some extra carpet from the lot - for "just in case". Jayboundless, The floor pieces (front and rear left and right) and the center covering the tunnel front to back we are reinforced with cardboard like material and then the rubber bottom...super thick and seemingly super durable. The foam was bought from Lakewell with the B Pillar trim kit. It is roughly 1/8" thick open cell foam. I could use the same headliner material from Joann's to do this as well. It just takes up any imperfections on the underlaying surfaces when applying the vinyl. Mike |
Okay, I finished up the underside targa vinyl removable section today. Whew. Used a heat gun and some fast hands to get that vinyl in place around the curves. I used headliner glue for vinyl to foam and vinyl to the straight sections of metal. I used contact cement for the ends and the vent cutout details. Some shots:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456278509.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456278518.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456278530.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456278539.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456278549.jpg Next up, I restore the fresh air vents and then install this beast. |
Keeping it rolling, I decided to revinyl the targa bar interior vents. I went to Home Depot and bought some screen material for less than $6. I bought the replacement vinyl already punched and rough cut by Lakewell. I used scissors to trim the screen to size (following the perimeter of the metal support plate). Then I tacked it in place with blue tape once I got everything lined up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456373231.jpg I used contact cement and an inexpensive plastic scraper to glue down the long sides: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456373243.jpg Then I trimmed the short side and edges and glued them down. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456373255.jpg Here is the front and the back: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456373268.jpg With luck I will install them and the targa bar underneath panel tomorrow. |
I finished with the rear of the car! Overlaying the old perforated vent covers on the new, with an Exacto blade I cut the holes for the seat belt swivel. I trimmed the hole with a knife. Then I pressed the vents into place and bent the metal tabs on back tight to the targa cover frame. Next I took a hole punch and punched out vinyl covering the two screw holes on each side that fasten this cover in place.
I sat on the back hump and positioned the cover to catch all of the tabs. It wasn't easy, and it took me about 5 minutes to get it situated. I worked from the center to one side and then fastened the two screw retaining it (not tight yet), then worked the other side. The new foam and vinyl make things puffy and parts need to be pushed together with force. I then screwed in the four screws tight and sheared the final screw. Back out it came. I extracted the remains of the screw and cleaned up the holes with a drill bit. Then I tried again and got it fairly quickly. The rest went together real fast. Here is the result:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456450887.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456450907.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456450923.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456450942.jpg Next I will move on to the doors. I will buy RS Panels already made from Appbiz and I will recover the door toppers in new vinyl. |
Mike,
Very nice! |
Thanks Lou. I am taking a couple weeks off then will attack the door, windshield and targa seals.
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Your couple of weeks off are over... :-)
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Life kicked me in the shins...I'll get back at it. Thanks for checking in!
Got the Porsche 1972 small rectangular mirrors in (great) and the chrome aftermarket rear bumperettes (okay). Need to order the chrome door handles to see the quality, and the appbiz RS America door cards...then I will tackle the doors. After I get through this life lesson I will be back at it. |
Great project! I love what you did with the fuse panel, I'll be studying that a little closer for when when I attempt mine. Cheers!
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Feel free to ask questions. I made it harder on myself than I really needed to. I learned some in the process.
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Got my Dansk chrome door handle set in - I saw it briefly before I headed out on a trip....looks great and the price was nice ($250 shipped for both handles and lock assys with keys).
Next order is RS style interior door cards...then I have no excuse not to start on the doors. |
Well, a few weeks turned into months. Where does the time go?
I finally started working on the doors today. I removed the door toppers and all door panel components. I have a passenger door window that is slow to raise...I found the spring retainer sitting in the bottom of the door. I also have a driver side window that easily pops out of the channel and will need to be glued. I think there is a rusty channel on that side too... I received my Appbiz RSA door cards with silver pulls. I also removed the mirrors and they are dangling from the harnesses as I am awaiting the tool to remove the connector shells. Lastly, I installed the Dansk replacement chrome door handles. Other than having a buggered first thread one stud that I needed to deal with and needing to screw in the plunger/actuators all the way, they work and look fine. That is a nice quick fix. I need to install a remote keyless entry system. I just ordered an Avital 2101L from Amazon. |
Pictures of the door handles:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1477343437.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1477343473.jpg |
Subscribed!, All OCD work makes me feel normal!
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Today I put on the passenger's side mirror using the "easy" method. I had a sheet of black 1/16" ABS plastic left over from another project. After cutting the shape slightly larger that the black gasket that came with the mirrors, I used a heatgun to soften it and bend it in a curve longitudinally. That, when the mirror was bolted on, created another gasket covering the holes. It looks fine for now. I might make a doubler in metal for the backside though as my holes are near the edges of some of the preexisting larger ones. It beats welding and repainting the doors.
The driver's side will be quite a bot more difficult due to its location on the door. I will have to drill hole on the inside to be able to screw into the mirror. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478133909.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478133923.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478133936.jpg |
Today I did the preliminary install of the keyless door lock system and got it working. The chrome handles I have do not have the door lock micro switches in them so I needed a way to lock the doors and I wanted a remote keyless entry. I found this system on Amazon for $30:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478304030.jpg With a little experimentation I figured out that the Blue/Yellow wire at the actuator, when powered with +12VDC and the Green/Red wire grounded powers the actuator to lock the door. When you put +12VDC on the Green/Red wire and ground the Blue/Yellow wire at the actuator, then the actuator is powered to unlock the doors. The other connections for the internal switch of the actuator must just report the position back to the control module. I will not be using those. The implementation of a modern remote keyless entry module was real easy given this. I just put +12VDC on the main input (red wire) to the control module and the Violet and Violet/Black wires that are listed as #87 Normally Open (Input). I grounded the control module black ground wire along with the White/Black and Brown/Black wires that are listed as #87A Normally Closed. I then connected the Blue/Black wire from the module to the Green/Red wire at the actuator and then the Green/Black wire from the module to the Blue/Yellow wire at the actuator. The control module has both Green/Black and Blue/Black wires to the actuator rest at ground when not in use. When you push the lock or unlock button on the remote, the control module puts +12VDC on the appropriate wire (Green/Black or Blue/Black) to move the actuator the appropriate direction. It then grounds both wires again after about a second. The control module is so light that I just used velcro to attach it. The valet switch and red flashing LED are hooked up but not located. I may not even keep these features. I don't see any benefit. The valet button is used for programming higher level functions. The red LED flashes brightly when the doors are locked. I have not done my final wiring bundle as I might implement the horn honk feature. I want to make sure I am in the final configuration before I cut the unused wires and shorten all of the three runs to the final lengths and routing (power, ground and actuator runs). I put the power to position 17 of my fuse box for constant power and fused it at 15amps. The ground will go where the wiper control module is attached right above the fuse box. I reused the original harness for the door lock system but cut off several branches that went to power, ground and the old original control module. The original control module was located on the driver's side. I wanted my new one on the other side of the car, so I flipped the harness. The actuator power and ground wires are daisy chained in the original harness. They went from the original control module location behind the gauges to the driver's side door connector then to the passenger's side door connector. By flipping the harness, I had the wires to the original control module right near where I put the new one. Not bad for $30. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478304047.jpg |
Here is the actuator hookup for future reference:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478305520.jpg |
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Great project, lots of similarity to my 76 targa project except you are further advanced and way quicker.
Giving me some needed inspiration Regards Michael http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1478309816.jpg |
Looking good Tassi! Do you have a build thread? I have some more door work to do and then I am heading to the front of the car for new fenders, bumper and hood.
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Okay, so I have had a couple to days to work on the car. I spent an hour or two hooking up the horn honk feature of the remote keyless entry system. I located teh small brown/white horn ground wire near my new horn relay and soldered a brown extension wire from the Keyless Control Module. The locking and unlocking is silent unless you press the rear hatch open button on the remote before locking and unlocking. Doing that turns the horn honking feature on temporarily. You get one honk for lock and two honks for unlock. Sweet.
I cut off all the excess wiring from the control module for the remainder of the features I will not use. I still need to shorten and reroute the power and ground and then tape teh harness up for good. |
Today was spent on the door guts....something I have been avoiding. My door have a lot of glue and old silicone on them. Both sides have helper spring posts that have left their factory locations and ended up in the bottoms of the doors - leading to slow windows going up. I also have a driver's side window that keep popping out.
So I spent at least one hour removing the guts of both doors. Man are those regulators tricky to remove. But remove them I did. I also found that the reason teh driver's window keeps popping out was that the window channel was rust through in about 50% of its length and the channel had lost its ability to hold onto the window. New part ordered - $350 WOW. I then spent probably one hour one each door using Citru Strip, Goof Off, Isopropyl Alcohol and other cleaners along with razor blades scraping the perimeter area I need to adhere the new moisture barriers to. I also took out the old lower plastic screw expanding nuts along the bottom of the doors. I will be installing new AppBiz RS America Door Cards with Silver pulls. I then went shopping for standoffs and cap head screws to act as new up spring stops, paint supplies to repaint the black portion of the inner door, and other bits. |
Picture of the new window spring standoffs with the old peened factory unit:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479266990.jpg
Picture of the door...before prime and satin black paint of the outer inch or two: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479267039.jpg I still need to source one of these: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479267052.jpg |
Lastly, I did some adjusting of the rear bumpers and mounted the front bumper tube supports (the old black ones and a new grey one):
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479267308.jpg Loosely installed with oil tank support bracket: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479267328.jpg I need to make final adjustments and shim as necessary. The black lower bumper section has a brushed metal cap that needs to be riveted on after paint...this should take up the difference to the wheel arch: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479267713.jpg |
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